80,000 Hours Podcast
Rob, Luisa, Keiran, and the 80,000 Hours team
Categorias: Educación
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"Perception is quite difficult with cameras: even if you have a stereo camera, you still can’t really build a map of where everything is in space. It’s just very difficult. And I know that sounds surprising, because humans are very good at this. In fact, even with one eye, we can navigate and we can clear the dinner table. But it seems that we’re building in a lot of understanding and intuition about what’s happening in the world and where objects are and how they behave. For robots, it’s very difficult to get a perfectly accurate model of the world and where things are. So if you’re going to go manipulate or grasp an object, a small error in that position will maybe have your robot crash into the object, a delicate wine glass, and probably break it. So the perception and the control are both problems." —Ken Goldberg
In today’s episode, host Luisa Rodriguez speaks to Ken Goldberg — robotics professor at UC Berkeley — about the major research challenges still ahead before robots become broadly integrated into our homes and societies.
Links to learn more, highlights, and full transcript.
They cover:
- Why training robots is harder than training large language models like ChatGPT.
- The biggest engineering challenges that still remain before robots can be widely useful in the real world.
- The sectors where Ken thinks robots will be most useful in the coming decades — like homecare, agriculture, and medicine.
- Whether we should be worried about robot labour affecting human employment.
- Recent breakthroughs in robotics, and what cutting-edge robots can do today.
- Ken’s work as an artist, where he explores the complex relationship between humans and technology.
- And plenty more.
Chapters:
- Cold open (00:00:00)
- Luisa's intro (00:01:19)
- General purpose robots and the “robotics bubble” (00:03:11)
- How training robots is different than training large language models (00:14:01)
- What can robots do today? (00:34:35)
- Challenges for progress: fault tolerance, multidimensionality, and perception (00:41:00)
- Recent breakthroughs in robotics (00:52:32)
- Barriers to making better robots: hardware, software, and physics (01:03:13)
- Future robots in home care, logistics, food production, and medicine (01:16:35)
- How might robot labour affect the job market? (01:44:27)
- Robotics and art (01:51:28)
- Luisa's outro (02:00:55)
Producer: Keiran Harris
Audio engineering: Dominic Armstrong, Ben Cordell, Milo McGuire, and Simon Monsour
Content editing: Luisa Rodriguez, Katy Moore, and Keiran Harris
Transcriptions: Katy Moore
Episodios anteriores
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336 - #201 – Ken Goldberg on why your robot butler isn’t here yet Fri, 13 Sep 2024
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335 - #200 – Ezra Karger on what superforecasters and experts think about existential risks Wed, 04 Sep 2024
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334 - #199 – Nathan Calvin on California’s AI bill SB 1047 and its potential to shape US AI policy Thu, 29 Aug 2024
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333 - #198 – Meghan Barrett on challenging our assumptions about insects Mon, 26 Aug 2024
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332 - #197 – Nick Joseph on whether Anthropic's AI safety policy is up to the task Thu, 22 Aug 2024
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331 - #196 – Jonathan Birch on the edge cases of sentience and why they matter Thu, 15 Aug 2024
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330 - #195 – Sella Nevo on who's trying to steal frontier AI models, and what they could do with them Thu, 01 Aug 2024
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329 - #194 – Vitalik Buterin on defensive acceleration and how to regulate AI when you fear government Fri, 26 Jul 2024
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328 - #193 – Sihao Huang on the risk that US–China AI competition leads to war Thu, 18 Jul 2024
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327 - #192 – Annie Jacobsen on what would happen if North Korea launched a nuclear weapon at the US Fri, 12 Jul 2024
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326 - #191 (Part 2) – Carl Shulman on government and society after AGI Fri, 05 Jul 2024
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325 - #191 (Part 1) – Carl Shulman on the economy and national security after AGI Thu, 27 Jun 2024
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324 - #190 – Eric Schwitzgebel on whether the US is conscious Fri, 07 Jun 2024
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323 - #189 – Rachel Glennerster on how “market shaping” could help solve climate change, pandemics, and other global problems Wed, 29 May 2024
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322 - #188 – Matt Clancy on whether science is good Thu, 23 May 2024
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321 - #187 – Zach Weinersmith on how researching his book turned him from a space optimist into a "space bastard" Tue, 14 May 2024
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320 - #186 – Dean Spears on why babies are born small in Uttar Pradesh, and how to save their lives Wed, 01 May 2024
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319 - #185 – Lewis Bollard on the 7 most promising ways to end factory farming, and whether AI is going to be good or bad for animals Thu, 18 Apr 2024
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318 - #184 – Zvi Mowshowitz on sleeping on sleeper agents, and the biggest AI updates since ChatGPT Thu, 11 Apr 2024
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317 - AI governance and policy (Article) Thu, 28 Mar 2024
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316 - #183 – Spencer Greenberg on causation without correlation, money and happiness, lightgassing, hype vs value, and more Thu, 14 Mar 2024
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315 - #182 – Bob Fischer on comparing the welfare of humans, chickens, pigs, octopuses, bees, and more Fri, 08 Mar 2024
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314 - #181 – Laura Deming on the science that could keep us healthy in our 80s and beyond Fri, 01 Mar 2024
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313 - #180 – Hugo Mercier on why gullibility and misinformation are overrated Wed, 21 Feb 2024
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312 - #179 – Randy Nesse on why evolution left us so vulnerable to depression and anxiety Mon, 12 Feb 2024
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311 - #178 – Emily Oster on what the evidence actually says about pregnancy and parenting Thu, 01 Feb 2024
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310 - #177 – Nathan Labenz on recent AI breakthroughs and navigating the growing rift between AI safety and accelerationist camps Wed, 24 Jan 2024
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309 - #90 Classic episode – Ajeya Cotra on worldview diversification and how big the future could be Fri, 12 Jan 2024
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308 - #112 Classic episode – Carl Shulman on the common-sense case for existential risk work and its practical implications Mon, 08 Jan 2024
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307 - #111 Classic episode – Mushtaq Khan on using institutional economics to predict effective government reforms Thu, 04 Jan 2024
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306 - 2023 Mega-highlights Extravaganza Sun, 31 Dec 2023
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305 - #100 Classic episode – Having a successful career with depression, anxiety, and imposter syndrome Wed, 27 Dec 2023
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304 - #176 – Nathan Labenz on the final push for AGI, understanding OpenAI's leadership drama, and red-teaming frontier models Fri, 22 Dec 2023
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303 - #175 – Lucia Coulter on preventing lead poisoning for $1.66 per child Thu, 14 Dec 2023
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302 - #174 – Nita Farahany on the neurotechnology already being used to convict criminals and manipulate workers Thu, 07 Dec 2023
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301 - #173 – Jeff Sebo on digital minds, and how to avoid sleepwalking into a major moral catastrophe Wed, 22 Nov 2023
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300 - #172 – Bryan Caplan on why you should stop reading the news Fri, 17 Nov 2023
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299 - #171 – Alison Young on how top labs have jeopardised public health with repeated biosafety failures Thu, 09 Nov 2023
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298 - #170 – Santosh Harish on how air pollution is responsible for ~12% of global deaths — and how to get that number down Wed, 01 Nov 2023
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297 - #169 – Paul Niehaus on whether cash transfers cause economic growth, and keeping theft to acceptable levels Thu, 26 Oct 2023
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296 - #168 – Ian Morris on whether deep history says we're heading for an intelligence explosion Mon, 23 Oct 2023
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295 - #167 – Seren Kell on the research gaps holding back alternative proteins from mass adoption Wed, 18 Oct 2023
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294 - #166 – Tantum Collins on what he’s learned as an AI policy insider at the White House, DeepMind and elsewhere Thu, 12 Oct 2023
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293 - #165 – Anders Sandberg on war in space, whether civilisations age, and the best things possible in our universe Fri, 06 Oct 2023
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292 - #164 – Kevin Esvelt on cults that want to kill everyone, stealth vs wildfire pandemics, and how he felt inventing gene drives Mon, 02 Oct 2023
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291 - Great power conflict (Article) Fri, 22 Sep 2023
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290 - #163 – Toby Ord on the perils of maximising the good that you do Fri, 08 Sep 2023
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289 - The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023) Mon, 04 Sep 2023
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288 - #162 – Mustafa Suleyman on getting Washington and Silicon Valley to tame AI Fri, 01 Sep 2023
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287 - #161 – Michael Webb on whether AI will soon cause job loss, lower incomes, and higher inequality — or the opposite Wed, 23 Aug 2023