Podcast and Chill with MacG

00:01 To advertise, email, podcast at thisismaggie.com. Release yourself from order and logic and enter a new place. It's not work. It's not home. Here, no maps have been drawn. No books have been written. Nothing is certain. Everything is possible. Welcome to Podcast and Chill with Maggi. 00:29 I'm assuming this doesn't end well. 00:54 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the biggest podcast in Africa. And today's a special episode. We've got the king of melody. 01:09 Please make some noise for the one and only Swae Lee. What it do, what it do, what it do, fam. 01:17 Yo, bro, I gotta apologize to you and also to our fans, so we call them chillers, right? The chillers, chillers. Chillers, chillers. Yeah, I gotta apologize to them because last night I went ham, bro. I got too lit, so I lost my voice, bro. 01:29 Yeah, ham, way too lit. 01:31 I heard y'all got banned from Rich Life. 01:33 Yeah. 01:35 He said y'all went too hard, man. Tony Jalala was too crazy, man. How was it for you? Because, like, we were at the other marquee, so we didn't see you perform. 01:43 Oh, yeah. Ask guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit was lit, man. Shout out to everybody that came out, man. Everybody looked good. They had them, like, they had to spend at least 10,000 USD on they fits. Like, everybody looked good. It was like, to me, that's like the South Africa, like Coachella or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was fine. 02:00 And then how was your, the after part? 02:02 Like, where did you go? We went to the owner's office. 02:05 Yeah, where's that? 02:06 We was fucking them boys heavy the whole week. That's, I don't know the area really liked it, but... It was a nice little area, you know what I'm saying? It was like low-key, chill, party. A couple of vibes came out. 02:16 Movie. I heard you shot a music video in SA. 02:19 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole time I've been here, I've been shooting this video for this song off my album. Same difference. It's called Side Eye. 02:26 So it's like, it's kind of in my piano. It's a vibe. You know what I'm saying? I'm shooting it. I actually caught a lot of scenes. I got to catch one more scene before I get on the plane, like 8 in the morning. 02:36 Who produced that? The piano song? 02:39 That song... 02:41 I can't even remember who produced that actual song right there. Because I had so many damn songs I mixed. 02:46 Is it South African? The Amma Piano song? Because a lot of international artists try to produce Amma Piano and they always just... Yeah, somebody else they don't got real and authentic. Right, right, right. 02:57 Now I'm tapped in with the real, like, authentic South African producers because, like, that time I made that tweet. 03:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like... Yeah, the Nigerian flag. 03:05 Yeah. So... All the South African producers hit me up like, yo, we got real beats for you, Sway, we love you on Ammo Piano. Like, whatever beats you need, we got you. So I ended up getting like 100, 150 Ammo Piano beats. I just been, you know what I'm saying, making songs to them. 03:20 Yo, but let's keep context. So you tweeted, I think you tweeted, where is it? I tweeted, wait, see, I had Sway Lee on Ammo Piano. Yeah, and then you put a Nigerian flag. 03:30 Nigerian flag. And then South African. came for you, bro. Yeah, because Amapiano is from South Africa. Yeah, yeah. Word, I learned that day. I learned that day. 03:38 He's gonna learn, bro. He's gonna learn today. He's gonna learn today. 03:41 He's gonna learn today, bro. 03:42 He's gonna learn today. But I wasn't even saying, like, this is where it's from or nothing. I was just saying, like, I'm Nigerian. So I'm like, boom. I fuck with Amapiano shit. So I'm just like, you know, I'm not knowing the politics behind the African shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think everybody love each other. 03:56 So your first Amapiano song that you vibe to was... 04:00 The first one, my brother's Alpha Cat. Alpha Cat! Oh, Big Flexa! 04:05 Big Flexa, yeah. Yeah, Alpha Cat. Alpha style. Alpha Cat is on Big Flexa. Yeah, it's my dog. It's Costa, yeah. 04:15 We got to welcome you the African way, bro. Appreciate that. Oh, man. 04:18 In Africa, when you're coming to your home. I'm going to leave. Y'all South Africans, y'all know how to party. I'm going to leave this shit with alcohol poisoning, man. 04:26 Chill, don't let me know. 04:33 Bro, I don't know if you remember this. I gotta show you this picture, right? Last time I saw you, you probably won't remember this because you didn't know me, you know what I mean? Last time I saw you were here, this was Dubai. And I asked you for a picture. Oh, shit. That's hard. 04:46 Yeah, I remember that day. That's fine. 04:48 We're in Dubai. Rick Ross was performing there. Yeah, on top. 04:50 It was me, Rick Ross, Jeremiah. Yeah. 04:52 So the reason why I'm showing this picture, right? Yeah, yeah. I've seen that. Because if you can see the section right here. There's about eight, ten baddies. 04:59 Just for him! 05:01 Alone! Alone! In Dubai, my nigga! In Dubai, my nigga! 05:07 Seriously hard girls, bro. 05:09 Like that every time you travel, right? 05:12 Man, somehow I just always end up being outnumbered, for sure. You know, if you're like, hella girls. That's the demographic I'm trying to reach, though. So, yeah, shout out to the ladies, man. 05:23 What you think about the South African baddies, man? 05:26 Oh, it's crazy. Like, it's diverse. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm seeing, like, type of girls I never even knew existed. Yeah. Like, crazy mixes. Like, the color people. Y'all call them color, right? 05:38 Yeah, the color ladies. Color ladies. 05:40 Because my thing is, we've traveled all over the world. For real. Me too. Yeah, we've been everywhere. Not as much as you. Probably the same, you know what I'm saying? 05:48 You know what I'm saying? I've seen the same difference. 05:50 But, like, for me, it's the African girls. 05:53 But the best woman in the world, bro. It's fire. I ain't like... Yeah, I only... This me just three days. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? 06:04 Gotta extend that trip. 06:06 So is it like that where you travel? Because I know from here, you're flying out tomorrow, you're going to Poland. 06:10 Yeah, I'm going to Poland, then I'm going to Barcelona. So, you know, Barcelona gonna be crazy, too. But everywhere I go, yeah, everywhere I go, like... 06:19 My female fans, they come out and show love. 06:23 All the ladies always come out. You know what I'm saying? We had ladies night. We turn up. You bring the ladies out, the guys come out. 06:29 What's your type? What do you look for, bro? I ain't got no type. 06:34 Yeah, I just be like, I got some fine shit real put up. But yeah, man, all the girls are cool. I really ain't got no type. That's what inspired us. 06:46 Because it's always a beautiful girl. You see a beautiful girl, it's a beautiful little one. You know what I'm saying? 06:50 And what's your hit list like, bro? Sway Lee, let's be honest, bro. Because you must have smashed some baddies, bro. 06:57 Premium, 8th grade, all over the world. 07:00 Any celebrities? Sway don't kiss and tell. 07:03 Hey, can you give me my phone? Can you give me my phone? I want to show you some South African baddies, right? 07:08 And then you must tell me if you're going to smash your box, right? I want to show you some South African baddies, right? I'll be honest. So, so, so, this is the first one, right? Let me just open up my phone up, yeah? 07:18 Hey, hey, all of a sudden, I've got that American accent. I wonder, I wonder who you show here, bro. He said, what up, Sway? 07:26 How, Sway? Okay. I do have all the answers. Yeah. So this is Sha, what's her name? 07:33 Charlene. So this is Charlene. You smash your pussy. 07:38 I see another picture. 07:40 You want to see her in the picture? Yeah, I see another picture, yeah. To make an honest judgment, the honest answer. But right now with this picture, you're smashing your pussy. 07:50 G5, but that ain't my type. Oh, it doesn't even tie. 07:54 So the man doesn't even tie. 07:56 So you're going to pass him this up. 07:58 It's like a big umbrella, but... 08:00 Wait, let me see that picture, bro. 08:04 I had to pass it to the bro, for sure. 08:06 Oh, nah. He's not into the thick ones, bro. He's not into the really thick ones. 08:12 He's into the models. It gotta be a couple of checks. 08:16 This one is Faith Nketi. She's like an OG baddie. 08:21 Smash post. 08:24 Almost. Okay, almost. 08:25 All right. 08:27 All right. 08:28 All right. This one is Sian Bougie. Sian Bougie. She's young. She's young. 08:34 He's going to pass. 08:35 I'm sorry. He's passing. He's pretty dope. I took a shot with her and shit. I'm not doing it. 08:41 This is Missali. Missali. Missali. 08:45 All right. Missali. 08:51 I don't know if it's a whole lot of red, but yeah, she cool. She cool. I like that. I like that. 08:54 So how's it like for you, bro? Smacking. 08:55 Smacking. 08:56 Because you got like two baby mamas, right? 08:59 Yeah, I got my baby mama and my wife. 09:00 Yeah. Yeah. So how's it like for you? Because you're always traveling all over the world. And you know girls throw themselves at you. How's it like co-parenting with someone like that? 09:09 Yeah, it's cool, man. She trim. She super fine girl. Super patient. 09:15 Super understanding. Super bad. 09:18 Fine as fuck. Just put up. 09:20 Put up at the crib. You know what I'm saying? I take good care of her. All my baby mom was taken care of. But I ain't going to say all my baby mom was like, I got like 10. 09:27 But you know what I'm saying? 09:29 They all taken care of. You feel me? Like I did it. 09:32 What happened with the custody battles? Like what was going on there? 09:36 I just lawyered up, you know what I'm saying? Lawyered up, got right. I didn't have to do that with her. My main, my baby girl, she let me do whatever. She know I got to do my part as a dad, so you know what I'm saying? She always bring my son and just real cool. And you know what I'm saying? We always just, we locked in. 09:52 Bro, I'm a father as well, and so is Sol Panduka. Sol Panduka, by the way, he's the Sway Lee of the podcast. I'm the Slim Jim. I'm the Slim Jim. 10:02 Come on. Come on. 10:03 He's the same thing. 10:08 He's got all the fire puns. He's been touching grass. 10:13 I get that analogy. So he's got a kid as well. You got two kids. 10:19 I'm a father of two, man. What's it like, bro? Two boys? Girls. 10:23 So I got a girl and a boy. You got what? I got a boy and a girl. 10:29 Same man. So... You know we gotta work, bro. You gotta make money. But every time when I leave, bro... 10:36 It's a problem. 10:37 Bro! 10:38 Especially with the girl, bro. I know what you mean. It can be hard. This would pay the bills. Shit, we can go broke tomorrow. We can do this. This would support our lifestyle. Ultimately, like... You know, they understand we gotta beat the road. 10:53 We gotta bring the bag, bring the chicken home. 10:56 It's a sensitive topic. 11:00 What was it like for you? 11:03 Who raised you bro? You half Nigerian, right? 11:06 Yeah, I'm half Nigerian, half Creole. My mom, my mom, Creole. My dad was Nigerian, shit. 11:11 And your name is fucking long as fuck, bro. His name is Khalif Malik Iban Shaman Brown. 11:17 Yeah, it's in Iban. How do you pronounce it in Iban? Iban, Iban. Yeah, because it's just I-B-N. There's no vowels, nothing, bro. 11:25 It's like an IRS. It's just like, but it's like, yeah, Iban. 11:28 It's a texting name for both of them. It's not the IRS. 11:34 So who gave you Khalif? And then Malik? 11:54 That's part of, yeah, the whole... Your name is basically like what you become. Like what's your name? So whatever your name means, that's what you grow up to be. 12:03 So that means your mom was Nigerian. 12:06 My mom was like Creole and like had some like Arabic shit going on. She's super like bright skin, like pretty woman. 12:14 You can't even tell what race she is. 12:17 It's crazy. 12:17 So what did your name mean then? 12:19 Because you said it's something you ought to become. Yeah, my name mean leader of the people. 12:26 Oh. 12:27 Okay. Wasn't your mom in the military? Your mom was in the military too, yeah, for sure. So nigga moved around a whole lot, military basis, whole lot of military basis. 12:36 So who raised you up, dog? Like, was it your mom or your dad? 12:39 Actually, my stepdad raised me. So my stepdad was like, he was like selling drugs, trapping. He raised me. So then, my mom, she always be gone. You know what I'm saying? She was deployed and shit. She always be working and shit. So I always be sitting in the crib with my stepdad. 12:53 He be trapping. He had morals. He had like great morals. So he just raised us. You know what I'm saying? To be stand up. 12:59 And I heard that, how did he get killed? Like what happened? 13:03 Oh, that's not even ready for you. I can't even say that on podcast. It's so crazy. 13:08 Bro, and you close to him, right? Yeah, I was super close to him. Rather than your dad, man? 13:12 Yeah, I didn't even really know my real dad until I was like six. Then boom. Then my stepdad stepped up. Boom. Raised me. 13:19 Yeah. So you didn't know your real dad until you were six? 13:23 I knew him until I was six. 13:25 Oh, until you were six. 13:25 He wasn't in my life no more. Yeah. But I remember seeing him when I was a little kid and shit. But then we lived in LA at the time. Then boom. He met my mom. Then we ended up moving to Texas and Mississippi down south in America to the more southern states. And then yeah, just came up from there. 13:42 Okay, cool. Let me get this straight. So you're born. You're with your mom. She's traveling. And then your dad's not around. Your stepdad comes. He raises you. And then he's gone. So how do you become homeless then? Like what happens then? 13:59 Shit, just like 16, 17 type shit. Like times start getting hard. You know what I'm saying? Like bills start coming in. 14:05 Niggas start getting older. You know what I'm saying? I had a job and shit. But it was like we was fending for ourselves. So like... 14:11 whatever we killed, that's what we ate. You know what I'm saying? Basically, we young niggas. 14:14 Whatever we killed, that's what we ate. Yeah, like, for real. For real, whatever we killed. It's like you hunting, nigga. Yeah, yeah, for sure. 14:20 Survival. 14:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 14:22 We survive, nigga. This the world, go survive. You know what I'm saying? Boom. Yeah. I had a brother though, me and Slim Jimmy. So we always, like, worked together. Like, that's why we a group, because we always did everything together. Like, if he had $25, I had $25, we had $50. We, like, putting that shit together, we gonna get some big shit. 14:39 You know what I'm saying? But, yeah. So you were homeless. Is it just your family, mom, and your brother? Or is it just you and your brother trying to find a way in the world? 14:49 Yeah, it was more me and my brother just homeless. Because, like, we got kicked out the house and shit. Like, when we was young and shit. So we got put out the house at, like, 17. Little just rowdy young niggas, like, trying to make it. Trying to just make it in music. We loud as shit. You know what I'm saying? Like... 15:03 fucking up my mom's computer. You know what I'm saying? I put a virus on my mom's computer. 15:07 I was trying to get all the software. 15:11 So I put a virus on my computer. I'm just like doing all type of shit. I knew it was going to end up being something great. 15:20 I'm going to end up blowing up or whatever. You know what I'm saying? I'm just trying to make it. So boom. 15:25 Ended up getting put out the house, had to get a job, had to find somewhere to live. We was living in a bando for a little minute. We had this house, we just got in it, and all we had to do was pay the electricity bill, but we didn't have to pay no rent or nothing. We didn't have to pay the electricity, but it was raggedy as fuck. It was like a bando house. When niggas rap about a bando, this is what they talking about. 15:45 Holes in the wall and shit. Only cold water. 15:47 That's you, sweetie, bro. 15:49 Yeah, I'm living in this shit. Happy, trapping this shit out, living in this shit. You know what I'm saying? 15:54 Just trying to figure it out. And then, boom, we ended up getting a situation in Atlanta. My DJ, actually, he lived in Mississippi with us. His relatives, his cousins lived in Atlanta. And they worked with this producer named Mike Will. 16:09 And Mike Will was like super tapped in. He kicked in the doors. He was making the craziest music, making hits for everybody. Miley Cyrus. Miley Cyrus, Gucci Mane. It's just Atlanta, nigga. He had a kid with a dream, and he was actually doing big things. And his producers that he worked with up under him, they knew us. They knew my DJ. And they heard our music. They was like, if y'all come to Atlanta, somehow y'all make it to Atlanta and just work with us. 16:35 And you know what I'm saying, we broke as shit, but it's three of us. So like, we put our brother together. 16:39 So it was three of you guys first? 16:41 At first it was two, but then we met our homie. His name was Bobo Sway. 16:47 So he came with the Sway shit. Like Sway, like I'm Sway Lee. He was Bobo Sway. And my brother was Cali boy. 16:54 And it's like, the Sway shit, that's what we started talking about. 16:57 But you and Slim, do you have the same parents? Same mom and dad? We think so, yeah. 17:03 You never know. 17:05 We think so. We look kind of different. You never know. Yeah, I'll be there. 17:12 We just be wondering, like, damn. 17:15 And you'll never know, eh? Never know, yeah, never know. 17:18 People lie, bro. Yeah, my mom cool about it, though. My mom's super cool about it. I look like my mom. I look just like my mom. 17:24 So at this moment, what were you guys called? Because obviously, Ray Simard is the reverse of eardrummers, which is Michael's label. So surely you had a name before changing it. 17:35 Yeah, back then, we was called the Out-of-State Boys. 17:38 Out-of-state boys. 17:39 Yeah, because even when we was in Mississippi, we was from L.A. So we was different in our state. Everybody was like, these niggas is different. Like, the way we carry our swag, because we was from L.A. and Texas and shit. And then we ended up moving to Mississippi, a small town. So we was like, we just stood out like naturally. Yeah, like our haircuts and shit. And we called ourselves the out-of-state boys. 18:00 Bro, it's so crazy because we were in L.A. 18:04 But we were like by the city, right? So it's our first time in America. First time in L.A. Myself and Saul. 18:10 Yeah, first time, right? And then we lit as fuck, right? 18:14 And we wanted to catch a train because we wanted to go to the hood to Compton. Is it Compton? 18:20 Yeah, Compton. 18:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And everyone was like, no, don't go there. 18:24 Everybody was like, we're like, yo, bro, we're from Soweto. We're from Folsom. We'll manage. We're from the hottest hood in Africa. We'll manage Compton, man. 18:33 No, there's too many places to go besides there, man. 18:38 Midnight, remember? 18:39 We wanted to drive the train and go. 18:40 Midnight? Yeah! We didn't want to see the hood, man. Bro, how did that go? No, we didn't go. Everybody was like, don't go. Even the cops by the train. 18:50 We wanted to go to Englewood. Englewood. That's where I was born. I was born in Englewood. Yeah, I was born in Englewood. 18:56 What the fuck is happening there, bro? Why can't we go there at midnight, bro? 19:00 No. That's the trenches. That's like our trenches. You know, there's a lot of gang activity and shit. And like... 19:08 I just wouldn't say it's safe for an outsider, like somebody else. Especially at 12 at night. 19:14 It can get dangerous, you know what I'm saying? It can get crazy. 19:17 But that's the thing about your music, bro. Because when I listen to music… So let me give you context, right? So South Africans were very influenced by American culture. 19:28 Especially hip-hop. 19:30 from Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and all those days, right? But they always talking about that gangster shit, like, pop a cap in your ass, drive by, killing niggas, whatever. You understand what I'm saying? So if you grew up from that kind of environment, but your music is more like, yo, man, let's have fun, man. 19:48 It's unforgettable. Gang shit, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I try to keep my music uplifting. 19:57 You know what I'm saying? We all go through our problems in real life. I don't think people want to hear about that shit in music. They want to hear some fun shit. But is that conscious, bro? Are you seeing a gap? You're like, oh, these niggas are rapping about this. Let me… That too. And I just… I feel like niggas ain't doing that shit. I'm seeing this shit every day. Like, so-and-so got shot. So-and-so got into a fight. So-and-so got jumped over here. They robbed so-and-so over here. This shit we really dealing with. We like, damn. We got to deal with all this shit. 20:26 boom niggas trying to chase you with the car over here like it's like grand theft auto shit like it's real life so it's like aight man let's let's highlight some positive topics boom and we was fun niggas like we was turning niggas like even when we was broke we was having house parties like just turning shit up 15 16 15 16 fucking the city up you know what i'm saying like so this stuff we really like doing we like having a good time like yeah we knew how to like turn up we knew what like Like Project X type shit. That type shit is just like… That's the fun shit. 20:55 That's what people like… Listen man, let's talk about Unforgettable, man. And let's squash the Unforgettable chat, right? Because I saw you did an interview on… Drink Champs. You got 160,000. Trust me, this one's going to do way better. So… Let's squash it. Let the world know, right? I heard, right, that you started Unforgettable, right? Yeah. You sent it to WizKid. 21:26 You tell us the story, right? Yeah. You sent it to WizKid, and then... Somehow like in the industry, people knew about it and then Drake wanted the song. But when Drake wanted the song, French Montana already bought it. And then French was the one that ended up with the song. Like, what happened? What happened with Unforgettable? Let's just clear that up. 21:48 Yeah, long story short, I wrote the song. Yeah, I wrote that song. You know what I'm saying? I write a ton of those. You know what I'm saying? That's my style of music. Like, Afro. That was, what, like 10 years ago? 21:59 Like, yeah, like, I just bent on that shit. Like, that's my natural rhythm in my body. You know what I'm saying? So, I do that shit in my sleep. So, yeah, I wrote that song, and it's like, boom. I had, like, 50 other songs. I had Black Beatles. In the back. Yeah, this is about to drop. All this is about to drop. So, it's like, that song figuring it out. Basically, a French guy that he saw the value in it, capitalize on it, you know what I'm saying? 22:24 Wait, wait, when you say French got it, like, so you've done the song. 22:27 Yeah, I did the song. You did the melody. I was working with a guy called Molly Mall, his name was Molly Mall. So he had a popular studio, like a home studio. Right opposite your house. Exactly, right across the street from me. So everybody used to go there, all the rappers, whole lot of stars used to go there and work. So the song was just basically like floating in that atmosphere, just... 22:45 It's in the hard drive. 22:45 Being passed from hand to hand, basically, like, you know what I'm saying? So French heard it. 22:50 He saw value. He saw what it was. He heard it. He's like, yo, this a magical song. This shit, like, crazy. Make you want to cry. You know what I'm saying? That shit, big. Even me, I was like, My thing was like, I want this song to drop. I know this song. I think it's a great song. Yeah. I love this song. 23:06 Classic, classic, classic. 23:06 Of course, I don't know. This is a billion stream song. It's two billion now. I'm not thinking numbers. Life changing. You feel me? Yeah. Life changing song, for real. I knew it was a high caliber song. 23:17 But wait, wait, wait. Take us back. So you do the song. So that whatever, the producer's got the song. Yeah. So does he shop it out? 23:26 I don't know how it went behind closed doors. I just know it ended up in bro's hands. And it was a couple other artists that got a hold to this song. 23:34 You sent it to Wizkid first. 23:35 I sent it to Wizkid, yeah, because when I heard it, I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I love Afro shit. I'm like, boom. 23:39 So Wizkid passes on it. 23:41 No, no, Wizkid did a verse. Okay. And then time goes by, boom, whatever. I'm focused on my other project with my group. So this is just a song I got in a can. 23:50 So when does Drake hear it? 23:52 Drake heard it a couple months after that, like... 23:55 According to... 23:57 I didn't directly talk to Drake. But according to people, Drake was fucking with his song. Boom, boom, boom. Whatever. Boom. And French... French was already moving on the song, though. You know what I'm saying? He had the artwork. Yeah. Ready. You know what I'm saying? The one that you're not... Video. 24:10 He's not in the artwork, by the way. 24:11 Yeah, I know. I know. I'm not in the artwork. That's why a lot of people get confused. It's a whole lot of people don't even know I made that song. Yeah. Because, of course, I'm not in the artwork. And they don't know my voice. 24:21 Yeah. 24:22 But, yeah. Yeah. The people that know, they know. 24:24 Okay, so French hears it first. So let's just say for argument's sake, because you don't know like you got a team and there's people working behind the scenes. So Wizkid hears it. He does a verse. Nothing happens. I sent it to Wizkid. 24:36 On Twitter. On Twitter. Yeah, that's why I went on it. I was like... 24:41 Who sound good on this? 24:42 It's like, damn, Wizkiller sound crazy on this. 24:45 And he sent me a crazy verse back. 24:47 But you're still like, okay, let's not put it out. 24:49 No, I'm just like, yes, I got this in a can. But then I'm working on a whole project with my brother, too. So I got Black Beatles. Black Beatles is smashed, too. So it's just like, damn. So all this going on at the same time. 25:01 So stuff is happening behind the scenes that you're not aware of. 25:06 Well, I'm aware of everything, but... 25:09 It just came out not the traditional way. You know what I'm saying? I didn't be like, yo, French, get on this song and put it out. But you know what I'm saying? That song worked out beautiful. However the fuck it happened, it's just like, the response that it got from the world, it's like, bro, you can't recreate that. It's just like... 25:25 But what I don't understand, when French says he didn't make a dollar from that song, right? Didn't he buy it? 25:33 See, I don't know how niggas, like, shit is set up. 25:38 I feel like even if he didn't make a dollar off the song, he's making a lot of dollars. You feel me? From life. Yeah, from life. So it's like, I don't really know what he meant. My boy, up, up. You feel me? 25:49 Does that make sense to you, Sol? It doesn't. 25:51 Because if you buy a song, you own the song. And if the song is billion streams, it's getting played all over the world. There's money being generated by the song. 26:00 Yeah, he probably meant something else. Maybe like... 26:05 He didn't make no money first. 26:06 I feel like, yeah, that job making money every day. You feel me? It's a big song. People cry listening to that song. 26:14 The thing is, the craziest thing is, we didn't even need the French first, bro. Damn, that's crazy. 26:19 Yeah, because you're the highlight of the song. Yeah, because it was my song. You can tell I'm the concept behind it. 26:26 But my thing is, you're in the studio. You're creating this song. Yeah, I heard it. It's magical. Why don't you just finish it yourself and release it yourself? Why were you shopping for a collaborative partner in the song? 26:43 That was my thing. I like collabing with artists too at the time. I like doing my thing and then giving them a whole opposite thing on the song. So I do the fire shit. Melody. Yeah, contrast. Exactly. Then somebody else is coming and boom. Do your shit now. Boom. And just take it somewhere else. Then come back to my shit. It's going to be a hit. 26:59 By the way, Drake, Kendrick Lamar, which side were you on? 27:04 That one… I wouldn't really, you know, that's not my beef. I'm just like, I'm just staying in my world. Yeah, but what side are we on? Because we all had to choose a side. 27:12 Yeah, yeah. 27:14 Sides were picked. Yeah, sides were picked. People was picking sides. Everybody's true colors. 27:17 And it's nothing personal. 27:19 No, no, no, for sure. Everybody has their own experience. You know what I'm saying? But me, I'm just like, I'm just watching. I'm just seeing it from the outside looking in. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, everybody's like, This drop, this day. This drop, this day. These niggas going in. 27:33 God damn. He looks like a Drake nigga because he's light-skinned. I fuck with Drake though. I love Drake music. Yeah, and I fuck with Kendrick. You feel me? 27:42 So I'm seeing both sides. But I fuck with Drake music. Crazy. I grew up on Drake music. You know what I'm saying? That's mine. 27:49 You ever worked with Drake? I don't know if you got a song with Drake, bro. 27:51 Yeah, I got a song with Drake, too. Me and Drake got a hard song. Yeah. We got a hard song. We actually was in the studio cooking shit way back. I went to Toronto. Went to his crib and shit and just cooked up with him and shit. 28:00 Bro, what's it like working with Drake, bro? He cool. He smooth. Bro, like, I don't understand the consistency to be, like, at the top. Oh, yeah, nah. 28:07 He's forever locked in. Play a little bit. Work a lot. He work. He stay locked in. 24-7. He writes his own shit. 28:29 What I know, yeah. 28:30 He comes crazy. 28:31 Was he writing when you guys were in the studio together? Was he creating the stuff or it was already written and he just sang it in the studio? 28:41 He was just doing his thing. He didn't have a whole team, no writers, nothing. He was just in there, locked in. It was me and him and his engineer. 28:51 And then another time, it was 40. It was just locked in. Everybody was locked in. 28:56 Drake be talking that talk. Kendrick, lyrical ability is crazy. Kendrick Lamar, delivery is crazy. 29:03 But don't you feel like the Drake, Jay-Z beef happening now is a bit weird, man. It's like, yo, man, Jay-Z, you're OG, bro. 29:10 It's an ankh, man, you know? 29:11 You know what I mean? 29:13 Ankh out you. 29:13 Whoever want to jump out there can jump out there, though. 29:16 You know what I'm saying? He ain't got no age limit on it. Nigga jump out there, he in the crossfire. You know what I'm saying? For real. I look at it on gun. Nigga jump out there, alright? You ever worked with Jay-Z? Have I worked with him? Yeah. 29:30 Actually, no, no. I ain't worked with Jay-Z yet. But, you know, they showed me a lot of love, like, over the years, like, just... Rock Nation. Rock Nation. Exactly, exactly. 29:40 Would you like, is that, like, a collaboration you'd like to do? 29:43 Definitely. I'm building. I'm always building my career. So I think that would be legendary. Swayze. 29:51 Would you get involved in a battle, bro? If someone worth of your response, big enough, calls you out on a song or disrespects you on a song? 30:00 I feel like... Sure, you must respond. 30:03 Eminem was like, I got more hooks in me than Swayze. I almost like... 30:12 More hooks than me? Oh, let me go. Nah, nah. 30:15 I fixed y'all better than me. Nah, nah, nah. I feel like you're supposed to be, you're getting bought in by a singing nigga. Yeah. 30:22 He's talking about the positivity and the singing, yeah. 30:25 I would just make a hit. And I might throw a little subliminal, a little diss in there. 30:31 Might diss a nigga on a pop song. 30:34 Speaking about writing, bro, okay. Be the first nigga diss a nigga on a pop song. 30:41 Bro, speaking of writing, please just explain to us. Because I don't understand how this works, right? And then, you know, we're privileged enough to sit next to you because you've done this shit. My guy. How do you write for Beyonce? Because you wrote for Formation. Like how does that happen? Does she call you? Is the team calling you? Like what's happening bro? 31:00 Yeah, I was privileged enough to work with Beyonce. Mike Will set that up. Mike Will, he got a crazy ear. 31:08 A couple of times, songs I wasn't even fucking with. Mike Will was like, bro, this song is... Sway, you need to use this song. Boom. I hate this song. I'm like, that's my throwaway song. Mike Will come in like, no. I'm like, it's a throwaway. Mike Will be like, nah, that's a hit. Sway, you need to lock in on that. Finish that jump. Boom. 31:26 Like, all right, boom, put it out, everybody love it. That's how formation was. 31:29 Like, even this song, Come Get Her, nigga Mike Will told me, like, yo, Swae Lee, you need to put that song, nah, for real. Somebody come get her. 31:37 I'm listening to that song, like, first I was just like, it's cool, but. 31:42 You know what I'm saying? Then it even grew on me. I was like, damn, that song was hard as fuck. 31:47 But you're still not telling us. 31:49 Like, did she call you a team? Nah, it's Mike Will. Mike Will basically set that studio session up. 31:54 Do you meet her? Do you meet her? 31:55 Yeah, I met her and shit briefly. You know what I'm saying? Like, one night, one night, cool. I went to the studio. 31:59 What's the world like, bro? 32:01 Glowing. I'm talking about glowing. Hair blowing in the wind. She just sitting there. No air in the room with her. 32:09 I'm like, God, definitely. 32:12 Like an angel just light behind us. 32:14 I'm like, shit. 32:15 You're like, hi, Ms. Carter. 32:17 Okay. 32:18 May I? May I speak? I'm honored to be in your presence. 32:25 But no, I was a young nigga when I met her. Like, I was young as fuck. 32:28 I'm coming off of watching her on the TV to like, seeing her, I was just like, so on Formation, are you writing the whole lyrics or it's like, it's a team of writers? 32:37 And what are you presenting with? Are you just hearing the beat only or it's the beat with some partial lyrics there? Like, how do you connect into the song too? 32:47 I just started, I heard that beat, I just started talking shit. 32:50 That beat was so loud. We was in the studio, so it was like studio speakers, so they played that beat, it was so loud. I just remember that beat was so loud. And I was just like freestyling. First I just had the flow like... 33:05 I came up with the melody and I was like, boom, that's hard. It was just right in pocket. So then I'm just like, okay, ladies, now let's get information. That's a hella random shot. I was just freestyling. You know what I'm saying? She heard that part and then she was like, that's it. And I realized, okay, that is it for her. She the leader of the ladies. She got the whole, all the bees, the bumblebees, Beyonce bees. Yeah, the beehive. Yeah, the beehive. She got to get them in formation. And she an iconic woman. She set an example for the women, so she get them in formation. 33:36 I was like, damn, that shit huge. And it was like, it ended up being the whole wave for the tour. 33:42 So it was like, that was just huge. At the moment, it felt so simple, but it's like, to see how that shit connected with the world. It's like, God damn, nigga. 33:51 Bro, so when you write for like Trevor Scott, how do you end up writing for Madonna, bro? 33:58 That's wild. I just work with these people. These are my peers. You know what I'm saying? So we always run into each other and we just like... 34:06 We gotta work. We gotta work. Yo, we gotta work. We gotta work. 34:08 So when you write for these people, are you like big? Is Black Beatles out? Is Sunflower out? Some of those songs went out. 34:18 Some of those songs was about to drop. Maybe like a year later, two years later. 34:21 So someone is vouching for you saying, yo, this kid is dope. 34:24 Yeah, everybody in America, they know. Like, Swae Lee, Swae Lee. He's the fire. He got that shit. Yeah, he got that shit. I'm the songbird in America. So what song did you write for Travis Scott? I ain't write nothing for him, but we collab on a lot of shit. Me and Trav, that's like my dog. Like, we pioneered the whole... Yeah, you guys fuck the same hoes, you know what I mean? It's a small world. 34:47 But yeah, my boy, me and Tribe, we just rock stars. Like, that's my brother. Like, we got the same energy, like, raising. 34:53 But Madonna, you wouldn't expect Swae Lee and Madonna collaboration. 34:56 Oh, yeah, no, for sure. When they told me Madonna wanted to work, I'm like, what we doing, nigga? Where Madonna at? 35:03 And you know Madonna at the time, bro? 35:05 I think I had met her... 35:08 We just got in the same vicinity just living in LA. We both lived in LA. Everybody lived there. It's the hype spot for all the artists. It's small. We all in the same places. We know the same people. And it's like, boom, work out. You want to work with Madonna? I was like, hell yeah. Went to the studio with Mike Dean. 35:27 Laying my verses down. And we made a couple crazy songs. 35:32 I noticed like... 35:34 Sunflower. I don't know, man. Which song is bigger do you think, bro? Is it Unforgettable or Sunflower? 35:38 Yo, yo, yo, yo. 35:42 Bigger. I think. I think. Okay. 35:44 Because it's global. 35:45 Yeah, it's a big song, man. That's the thing. 35:47 I'm in a billion on Spotify. That's the thing. Like, Unforgetta was big, but Sunflower is huge. It's huge. Yo. Huge. How do you come up with that hook, bro? What's happening? Like, are you... That was just like... And it was just a great day. It's a great day. 36:02 And a couple beers. You know what I'm saying? Got in the booth. Fucking my boy Pucks Malone. Fucking with... 36:10 Damn, that's my dog name. It's been a long week, but fucking with all them boys, boom. I was at Electric Field Studios. 36:21 Boom, we was on tour and we just like, we locked in one day and just made like eight songs in post. 36:26 But that one, it just like ended up on a Spider-Man movie. So that's what gave it the crazy boost. Bro, it's a good song though, bro. It's a good song, bro. Beyond that, but that just gave it that boost. 36:40 It's like cross, cross, cross. Hood pop. 36:46 Everybody sing that song. Gangsters sing that song. Kids sing that song. Old ladies sing that song. It's just like, that's one of them worldwide, family-friendly songs. 36:56 I noticed in a lot of interviews that you do, you mention Prince a lot, bro. Like, what is it that you like about Prince, bro? 37:02 Just fuck with Prince. Me and Prince, we got the same birthday. And then bro just, bro dropped, he dropped 30 albums before he died. 37:11 So I just look at that like, damn, like, 37:13 He only got five. 37:15 Feel me? 37:15 Yeah. 37:16 Yeah, I only got five, so I'm like, damn. 37:19 The legacy, he left 30 albums. You know what I'm saying? He really left an imprint on the world. 37:22 Yeah. 37:23 It's like... 37:24 But you look like a nigga that's... Quality of a... 37:29 Is it quantity? 37:30 Yeah. 37:30 Quality of quantity for sure. And I just go with the timing of everything. Even now, I got like 20,000 songs I ain't dropped. So I got too many songs. Now it's time for me to drop my 30 albums. Sit down and just put together projects. Just start putting together albums. That's why I just dropped my first album. Actually, same difference. 37:51 I dropped it in June. That was my first album I ever dropped. Solo. So boom. I'm about to start finally just rolling out more solo albums and shit. 37:59 Bro, you've worked with OG rappers and stuff, right? So legends, right? And you've worked with young rappers. What do you think the difference is right now with the climate that we're in with the new guys, bro? 38:14 I think it's a lot of good shit out and it's a lot of bullshit out. It's a lot of both. But it's a different generation, you know what I'm saying? 38:23 We got to understand these kids grow up with the brain rot shit. They grow up with cell phones and everything. So even their ear for music is different than when my generation and generation before me. So they listen to different shit. They like loud shit. They like disruptive music. So it's just like... 38:42 It's about finding your people, finding your crowd, just shooting your shots. 38:47 Like, they hungry, too. They want to work, too. New kids, they want to work. And they just figuring it out. So, you know what I'm saying? They need... They fuck with the OGs. Like, they want us to point them in the right direction. You know what I'm saying? So, all the new kids, they turn. And then the OGs, they just keeping a legacy going. You know what I'm saying? They trying to be in this shit 40, 50 more years. So... You know what I'm saying? They still connecting dots. 39:09 Because I remember when I was in Seoul, at the BT Awards, right? So we were from South Africa, bro. Like, whenever... Y'all went to the BT Awards? Yeah. The last one? Yeah. Oh, that's hard. That's hard. Yeah. We spoke to Jermaine Dupri. Who else? Yo. Friday. Oh, shit. Most of the niggas we didn't know, because we like OGs, bro. We old, my niggas. Yeah. No, no, no. 39:31 Young guys, man. I'm up there. 39:32 So we're from South Africa, right? So whenever we're in the award show, there's always booze. This was alcohol at the show. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. So the B-tier was, we could only drink during the intervals, right? Yeah, you had to go outside or you get locked out. Yeah, you go outside. 39:45 Someone outside, we're like, we got two minutes. We got two minutes. 39:50 A-Shots, hurry up. You hear that? 39:53 And then we came back inside. He was sitting at the road beside Sexy Red. Oh, shit. And they started twerking. And they started throwing money around. And throwing dollars around. 40:03 And I was reading dollars. This is why they don't drink. 40:06 Whoa, whoa. 40:07 He thought she was dreaming, actually. Oh, bro. Nigga thought he was dreaming. I remember very well, man. 40:13 He got a real taste of the culture. Shout out, Sexy Red. She got that energy, bro. Yeah. 40:18 So I wanna ask you as a young guy, right? Obviously like in the industry you've been there for years because you started very young. But like when you see stuff come out about the OGs, PDs with the sexual assaults and stuff. Russell Simmons. Are you not like, fuck man, damn man. It was crazy in the 90s bro. 40:41 Because shit is coming out now. 40:42 Russell Simmons was on the show. Yeah. 40:44 He don't want to talk about that shit. He's like, yeah. 40:46 I don't want to know about it too. I'm just like, I don't like. 40:51 Remember? Remember? It's like, hey, my nigga, I don't want to talk about that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 40:55 You flew to Bali. 40:56 Why are you flying to Bali? 40:58 Why are you all out here alone? 41:01 Where are you hiding from? 41:03 I was just all out there in the bushes, man. With some hot young Polynesian ladies, though. No, that shit's funny, y'all. 41:11 They look like his ex-wife, you know? No, y'all funny with Hela. Yo, y'all funny with Hela. We see him. Oh, God. 41:17 But we had to pay him respect, because it's OG. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 41:20 It's OG. 41:22 Bro, Simmons, legend, for real. That shit was crazy. 41:24 But when you see that shit come out, you're like, what was happening in the 90s, bro? 41:27 Yeah, I just be shocked. I just get like, that was a real different time. Because that's before social media. Yeah. 41:32 Yeah, and the wokeness. 41:34 Yeah, like, that's what started all this shit. Like, for real. Like, they started this shit for us. And you never been to a PDD party? 41:43 Yeah. 41:44 But not- Oh, for real. It's not- And then you left. And then you left. Nah, that's like- The guy had Serac campaigns with Diddy and everything. For real? I ain't see no weird shit. Yeah, it's a stand-up guy. From what I've seen, I saw straight stand-up guy activity. 42:00 Turned up energy like nothing illegal. 42:02 But that's the thing. Everyone says we left before. 42:04 Yeah, everybody left. If people say that, I'm just like... 42:08 I don't... 42:10 I don't go off allegations. I don't be knowing like, but if... Did you see the video with that Vlad drop? With the micro penis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the micro penis. Oh, yeah, yeah. I seen it. I seen it. That was crazy. That came out of my timeline. I was on Twitter. 42:23 You know what I'm saying? I see... 42:25 Whether you like it or not, you're going to see stuff. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, bro. You got to see stuff. 42:29 Bro, bro, I respect. You know what I was telling my friend the other day? And we were arguing about this, right? Yeah. Pinduco, I didn't tell you about this. But let me tell you, right? So I was telling my friend, bro. I'm like, I'm so glad. Okay, it's going to sound weird, right? But I was like, I'm so glad Tupac died the way he, at his age, because he was a legend, right? Because if he lived longer, we might have found out shit that we didn't want to know about Puck, like he's got a micro penis, you know what I mean? 42:59 Oh, yeah, it would have damaged the, damaged the, the legacy, the brand. 43:03 Yeah, yeah, because he lived long enough. Yeah. For you to get humiliated. Yeah. It only takes one thing. 43:11 It only takes one thing and then it's like, damn. Everything you worked for, it's all people gonna remember. 43:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna remember the freaky stuff. I feel like P.D. 43:19 didn't live too long, bro. 43:22 He's definitely a legend. He's been doing it for a minute, for real. 43:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So your first time with P.D., is it the party or the campaigns? 43:32 Shit. I lived in LA. We always just turn up, parties, whatever. We always see each other. It's like a select few individuals are just lit in LA at this time. 43:42 Everybody got mansions. Everybody have after parties. 43:44 Is it crazy in Miami? Because you always grow crazy about Miami, bro. 43:48 Nah, it's not crazy. It used to be. It used to be. LA used to be really the go-to spot. 43:53 All the artists was going there. That's the thing. You go to Hollywood. You work. You run an artist. You collab. You know what I'm saying? Now the energy shifted. And now everybody come to Miami. 44:03 Go outside. It's text-free. You might record a song on a yacht. You know what I'm saying? It's just different. You know what I'm saying? Now it's like the clubs don't close until 10 in the morning. Actually, they don't close at all. Like, it's clubs that don't even close at all. 44:18 The nightlife is crazy. 44:20 Girls, you know what I'm saying? 44:22 What's your favorite place to go to? Because you've traveled like... My favorite place? 44:29 Damn. 44:30 This shit fire too. Durban is fire. I'm fucking with Durban. Durban is fire. It's my first time here. This shit fire. 44:37 I fuck with Melbourne though. Melbourne, Australia is lit. 44:41 Safe as fuck. Shoot, we've never been there, bro. That's where y'all gotta go. 44:45 Aren't they racist, bro? Because there's a lot of white people there. It is a lot of white people. You know, there's a lot of South Africans that lived here. 44:50 Yeah, a lot of racist white South Africans go live in Australia. So where'd it go? They went to Australia? Yeah, to find comfort. To live amongst those who are like themselves. Racist. 45:01 I feel like... 45:04 Like a place that's like predominantly white like that, like, they always gonna have like a negative look on a black person. Especially if they don't know them and it's like, they're just gonna look down upon somebody, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I hate that shit. That shit is lame as fuck. 45:16 Bro, and you got tattoos and everything, bro. 45:17 Oh, yeah. Niggas don't know me, they be giving me them dirty looks. 45:20 The stereotype, yeah. 45:21 What's he doing here? Bitch, I got one way to you. Fuck you, tell me. Oh, my God. What are you doing here? 45:27 Fuck you, you too loud. 45:28 Bro, tell us about the tattoos, man. Like, yo, bro, like... 45:32 All you need is your dick tatted up, bro. I swear to God, that's the only room I got left. 45:37 But man, I just been like, bro, when I was like 15, I just knew I'm living on my own rules. 45:44 But is the story behind it? It was just like full, full, full. 45:47 That's a lot of ink, bro. This is like my first tattoo. Yeah, I'm actually taking my tattoo, getting laser on my chest to take them off. I'm going to put my dad on there. This is my first one. 45:59 I kid you not, bro. This one I knew, like, bro. 46:02 Like, you got pulled, nigga. I was 15. I walked into the tattoo shop. I was like, bro, how y'all doing? What's up? My name is Khalif, so-and-so, so-and-so. Boom, man. I'm looking at the art and shit. I'm 15. 46:14 I'm just like, can I get a tattoo? They just looked at me like, you know what? I'll give you a tattoo. Nigga, that's my age. This is a real tattoo shop. Boom, tatted me up. Nigga could have got a lawsuit, whatever. They didn't give a fuck. They just like, boom. You hard, bro. I'm going to get your tattoo. I got my little tattoo. You know what I'm saying? Went to school. But I had a hood tattoo dude, too. Like a hood tattoo artist that would come from Memphis. He'll tattoo everybody in the hood for like $40, whatever. You're getting whatever tattoo you want. $45, two for one special. 46:44 You know what I'm saying? So, goddamn. We just getting tats, young niggas. We ain't got to go home to our mom. You know what I'm saying? We got school. We going to school and shit. Actually, at that time, we did have to go home to our mom. But it's like, we working at McDonald's, so we having a little money in our pocket. You know what I'm saying? I'm a fucking cashier, flipping burgers and shit. So, nigga got a little money. Boom. 47:05 Just tap my body. I'm like rapping and shit in my closet. We like, bro, we gonna do this shit. You know what I'm saying? Me and my bro, we wildin', coming up with like, our own lingo and shit. 47:14 We just like living our own life basically. You know what I'm saying? So I'm tagging my shit. I felt like I was going to be an artist. 47:19 Bro, my thing is like, with the tattoos, there's something different. It's like, it's a different order, bro. Like, if we were to walk into the same, let's say, McDonald's. Okay, clap, clap. For example. Like... 47:31 The optics of a tattoo, it just seems like you're tough. You know what I mean? I might be tougher than him. It's like you're living on the edge. You know what I'm saying? But I got no tattoos. This nigga soft. You know? You might be super gangster. 47:47 Bro, if your dad is that special that you want to remove tattoos and put him, then how come you haven't gotten a tattoo of him already? 47:55 Because I want to put it on my chest. 47:57 And I got these tattoos from like young mindset. You know what I'm saying? I'm just young. I'm just young like, I want a fucking dragon right here. Oh my dog. 48:05 Yeah, dumb shit. Some roses on the back. You know what I'm saying? 48:08 Like prayer hands on my back. Like just dumb shit. 48:11 Only God can judge me. You feel me? A smiley face on it. Just dumb shit. Whatever feels good at the moment. And I just love art anyway. And I'm addicted to these shits. It's like you're customizing your car or something. 48:30 So it's a stepdad or biological dad? 48:34 He's my stepdad, but he's the nigga that raised me. 48:37 Yeah, that's the dad you're kidding. He the reason why I'm like, I ain't. Yeah, fair enough. That's your dad, man. 48:40 You gotta shut him up, bro. You gotta shut him up. Nah, nah, shout out Floyd Sully and my dog. Yeah, man. Shout out Pops. Nigga, one time I like, nigga did not play. Like, one time I stole like a fucking, I was at school. Like, nigga, I stole like a little toy, like a little small toy. Nigga, I had that shit in my pocket. 48:57 My dad, he knew he didn't buy it from me. Where you get this from, bro? Little ass toy. I'm in there taking a shit. He brought the shit in there. Where you get this from? I was like, got that from school. 49:07 I knew I stole it, but I had to go up to the school, apologize for stealing his little ass toy. Nigga just taught me how to be like the stand-up guy, you know what I'm saying? Respect, manners and shit. Yeah, be an honorable nigga. 49:20 And it's always a stepdad, dog. It's always a stepdad, bro. 49:24 Gangster, nigga. He spent 26 years in jail. Stabbed in the back. Back was crooked like this. 49:30 Nigga was gangster. Nigga was so gangster. But he raised like four boys, me and my brothers and shit, so it's our dog. 49:36 You're not in here saying, we'll call you a cheeseburger, because he's never been in jail. He's not a real rapper. You got to go to jail. Yeah, I've been in jail. 49:41 Yeah, proper trenches. 49:43 I've been in jail. 49:43 You been in jail? For what? Not for drinking and driving, bro. For what? 49:46 For felonies. 49:48 Nah, I went to jail for some bullshit, some bullshit. 49:52 Yeah, some D-Y-Y, like fucking, G-I-U, yeah. 49:56 It's like I had two switches on. 49:59 D-Y-Y, U-Y. Three pounds of milk. 50:03 Say hi, I was supplying all the cocaine in Miami. 50:06 Oh, shit. No, no, no. 50:09 No, but I was in Miami and shit. 50:13 So I'm goddamn, I had just left Mississippi. I just got my money and shit. So I'm riding these scooters in Miami. Me and my bros, like six of us, we got six scooters. We just rented these bitches. It's like our second time in Miami. So we riding these bitches around. Beep, beep, beep. All of us honking the horn. Loud as fuck. People in restaurants on the side of us. Beep, beep. Swerving around cars. 50:35 All of us though, so boom. Long story short, police get behind us, they like, pull over, hey, turn the bikes off, shut the bikes off, boom. 50:42 Everybody got their license, tell me now, and we make it real easy on yourself. 50:47 And I just left Mississippi, I had got a parking, I had ran a red light in Mississippi, and they, I didn't even know about this shit, like, they had suspended my license, come to find out, so boom. I'm like, yeah, I got my license. Everybody like, yeah, we got our license, they ran our licenses, boom. My shit came back suspended. 51:04 Nigga, these niggas, you, pointing me out like, me? 51:07 Put your hands on your back, why'd you lie to us? Boom, you know your license was suspended. I'm like, damn, I ain't even know. Boom, got locked up. Locked up, bro. My bro was like, my bro was like, I can't let you go by yourself, Sway. I'm gonna get locked up with you. Take me with him, boom. He's like, boom, took him with me, boom. I got locked up, boom. I stayed in there overnight. 51:27 That's it. But I ain't gonna lie, they treat me like Justin Bieber in that joint. As soon as I went in that bitch, it was like, Nigga, I went to the clean jail cell. 51:37 I got the blue uniform. I was like, all right, word. But it was cold as fuck. I'm in that bitch like, yo. I always make sure I stayed away from that shit. I lived a crazy life, but I made sure I didn't do no dead-end shit. 51:51 Bro, Miami's crazy, bro. My first time in Miami, right? This is my first time in Miami. So you were not there. You were not with me? No, I was not there. I was alone. So it's my first time in Miami, bro. I just landed. 52:03 And we had a hotel, right? So we booked a hotel. So right opposite, there was a restaurant, right? So I've never been to Miami. I only know Miami from you guys. Like rappers. 52:13 Like music videos. Vice City. Wow. Miami Vice. Yeah. 52:19 So I don't know what's happening, bro. Yeah, Scarface. So I land there, bro. I go to the restaurant. I'm hungry as fuck, bro. I just want to eat. 52:29 So this guy comes to me, a Cuban guy. Like, so, can I have your order? 52:33 I'm like, yeah. 52:34 Can I please have some steak and some tequila and tonic. 52:41 Bro, that nigga came to me five times to ask me, excuse me, what's your order? 52:48 Then we realized he was high. 52:51 He's a sniffer dog. He was high. 52:54 He was wiping his memory every time. Getting your origins, wiping his memory. Wipe it. Wipe it. 53:00 Damn. So what you crashed out on him? Yeah, I haven't crashed out because I just landed, bro. I don't know what my name is like. But we realized after, we're like, no, man, this thing is high, bro. 53:13 Oh my god, when you see him over doing that, too much. Like, he's got a coat or you on that boy. You know what I'm saying? You on that white boy, yeah. And that's like a popular drug. Oh my goodness. 53:23 Then the rest of my Miami trip was insane. Miami's different, bro. 53:27 It's fun, it's fun. 53:28 Like, bro, there were two couples in the hotel. Yeah. At the bottom, naked, but fighting. And everyone was walking like it's normal. Are you serious? Yeah, dog. What was that, Fountain Blue? That sound like Fountain Blue. 53:40 That sound like Fountain Blue restaurant. Yeah. They go down. They go down over there for a South Beach. 53:45 They're both naked, dog. His dick is hanging out. Everyone's walking around like it's normal, bro. Wow. Shit. And they cussing at each other. Yeah, fuck. It's the Coke, man. 53:53 Yeah, literally. Literally. Yeah, because that's what it is, right? That's a Coke night. Coke City. 53:58 Yeah. But what's a good spot? Because I didn't go out that night. What's a good spot to go out in Miami, bro? 54:02 Miami? Shoot. It's spots I don't even know about. There's so many good spots, but I go to... I probably go to Club 11 or like... 54:11 Mr. Jones or Vendome. 54:12 How much you spending that night? How much you spending? How much you spending? 54:15 I don't be having to spend. They bring me there. 54:20 50 bottles. I get the big section. I'm just like, all right. Let's get it. Call all the vibes out. You know what I'm saying? You turn it up, you know what I'm saying? I've been performing there too, so I always perform at this club called Eleven. So boom, it's like a strip club, but it's like an upscale fly-ass strip club. They finna build like apartments on top of it too. So that's finna be like Vegas, but that's one of the go-to spots. And then like fucking booby trap. Everybody go to booby trap. That's the Miami thing to do. It's like a strip club out there. 54:51 Like nightlife, super nightlife, late night. 54:53 Bro, what's the fascination with strip clubs? Like the more bands you spend, is that like a currency? 54:59 When you think about it, it's kind of slow. It's like you're just throwing the racks, giving the racks away. 55:04 But is that a currency in America? 55:05 But it's fun. It's part of the culture. For real? Yeah, and the dancers. Shout out to the dancers. They move their body to what they like and what's hot. So the best way to test your record is to go up in a strip club. You know what I'm saying? Have the DJ play your record. 55:21 how the DJ play your song, and then like, yeah, see how the dancers react. 55:24 They could break your song overnight. Oh, so you test your songs there? Yeah, you test your songs and you see what they fuck with. They test the energy and shit. 55:32 Because we don't need no strip clubs, man. We got doo-doo, man. We'll throw some bands on doo-doo, bro. What's that? 55:37 She's our producer. You know what? Where am I when this happens, bro? You throw in the... Hey. 55:47 Wait, are they brothers? No, no, no. They're not. They're not. They're not. They're not. Y'all are like brothers. No, no, no. That's Simpiwe. He's our sound guy and that's Tato. He's our camera guy. That's our shato squad. Shato squad. So I got some big fire questions for you, bro. 56:05 These are quick questions. In and out, yeah? 56:08 Biggest check you've received regarding royalties for a track you've done? 56:14 Mmm, probably sunflower. How much was the check? 56:19 Two month. 56:21 Three month. 56:22 Oh my God. 56:22 I spent that bit. Blew that bit. My garage. 56:35 My garage now. Oh, God. But yeah, Sunflower paid nice, for sure. 56:40 Have you ever given away a song that ended up becoming a hit and you recreated it? 56:45 For sure. 56:46 For sure. 56:48 A lot of songs, like a lot of songs I did, really, especially Unforgettable, like definitely that's the main example. It's Unforgettable. 56:56 Unforgettable. 56:56 Yeah, the world just knows that one too. It's like, damn. 56:59 Yeah. 56:59 Everybody's like, why you get a song away? I'm like... Bro, I'm making a lot of songs. I'm going to be making songs until I'm 67. You never know what's going to blow. Yeah, you never know. You never know what's going to blow. The song you hate could blow. 57:11 Ever been in studio, recorded a song, but it never came out and knew it was going to be a hit. And you were disappointed, bro. 57:18 Man, my whole hard drive is just like, I be listening to my music that's unreleased. That's my playlist. So many hard songs. And now they're kind of like, some of the songs are just from like 2020, 2019. So it's like, they old songs. So they sound just like, they sound like nothing you ever heard. Because they're kind of old. 57:40 And they're just like, different type of music. Even back then it was different type of music and now it's still different type of music and it's vintage. So it's like I got all these crazy sounding songs and it's just like literally my whole hard drive to answer the question. 57:55 So why don't you release those? 57:56 That's what I'm on now. Like I'm on sitting down Mixing projects. Releasing them. 58:02 Are you independent now? What was the journey like? Were you signed to a label? 58:08 Yeah, I'm still signed. I'm signed with Mike Will. And I'm signed with… Oh, you. 58:11 Mike Will. 58:12 Yeah, I'm signed with the Ear Drummers. Yeah, exactly. And I'm signed with Interscope. So yeah, that's my umbrella. Ear Drummers. And then my major is Interscope. 58:20 So you never thought about going solo, like some Young Money shit, you know? 58:24 Yeah, like having a record label and shit. Definitely, that's what it's building up to, for sure. It got so big, it's like, that's what I got to do. And I'm like, now I'm tapping in with what's next, you know what I'm saying, as I pass the torch. It's just like, boom. Who do I think is the next? 58:43 Huge, iconic superstar. 58:44 But you're so focused on your shit. Yeah, exactly. 58:46 So it's hard for me. That's crazy you even said that. 58:49 So there's this guy, bro. So there's this guy in SA, right? Who I'm a big fan of. He's a rapper. He's pretty much like you, right? Where he started off early. He got a big hit. And social media was… Rockin' with him, yeah. You know what I mean? His name is Nasty C, right? Nasty C, yeah, yeah. You know Nasty C? Yeah, hell yeah. For real! That's the song, man. 59:13 Oh, shit. Nasty C, he be rappin'. 59:18 I think I follow him on Twitter. They love him. It's a lot of controversy between him, but it's a lot of love. He get a lot of love, too. 59:25 He's the greatest right now in the country. He's the greatest rapper we have bro. 59:30 I've been hearing a lot of years about Nancy Steve for so long. 59:34 When it comes to rap, because obviously my piano is big right now. But when it comes to rap, he's the guy. He's our coach. He's the one outside my house. 59:50 And he started like you, right? 59:53 So he started when it was like 18, 19, got a big song. It's called Hell No. 59:58 Yeah, the remix or whatever. 60:04 He going with DaVito? 60:06 That's Juice Bag. 60:08 Juice Bag. So now, he's old, right? So he's like 31, 32. And he started streaming. 60:15 Right? Yeah. And I was like, I felt some type of way, because like, I feel like as an artist, like... 60:19 Still grind, like still grind. I feel like he still needs to keep grinding on the music. 60:25 He's killing his aura. 60:28 I know what you mean. The mystique of bringing artists. 60:31 Streaming for the new kids is like television though. 60:34 Yeah. 60:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally. If you build it up, it can become something massive. 60:39 Yeah. 60:40 Equivalent to rapping. Just like, you know, like, they look at speed better than some of the rappers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He is streamer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if they look at Kai Sinat, like, with star eyes, like... Yeah. They might pass a rapper like, ah, whatever. Nigga, they seen them classic. Kaisinat! When that streaming shit gets to that level. 60:58 But you don't strike me as a guy that would stream because that's what's happening now. You're just like, yo. I always look at it like, 61:06 Man, my lifestyle is stream worthy, though. Yes! 61:09 The shit that stream is doing is like, well, I do this shit on a Wednesday. 61:13 You know what I'm saying? When I don't even want to do it, I'm like, damn, I got to do this again, shit. All right, 50 girls, come on. Oh, shit, I got to fuck some hoes. 61:24 Oh, shit. Damn. 61:26 Oh, here we go again. 60 bottles. Lamborghini. Bugatti again. 61:38 Like, no cameras, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, it's cool because that's what people want to see. And like, I understand that. It's like, so sometimes like, I might turn on a stream, you know what I'm saying? But you got to go about it like a cool way as an artist. Like, you can't make it sound like that's your whole like bread and basket. You know what I'm saying? They got to still know you on your music grind. And then like, just to get them... 61:59 like an inside look, you streaming type shit. You know what I'm saying? That's how I would do it. 62:04 Was I wrong, bro? Because I love the guy, bro. 62:06 No, no, no. You ain't wrong because I get what you're saying. It's twisted. Look at it like, too. I feel like that sometimes, too. Like, that's why I don't just, hey, guys, follow my stream. Like, I wouldn't come out like that. They know me. I'm Swae Lee. Like, I'd be like, watch my stream. I'm doing some cool shit. I'm streaming Coachella. When I stream Coachella, I do big occasions. Yeah, exactly. Say if I'm going on tour with a huge artist or something, I might stream a couple nights just to show my fans, boom. This is what's going on. You know what I'm saying? 62:33 Because with artists, they have that mystique, bro. Yeah, that mystique is fire. 62:37 It works for some people. Some people... 62:40 It's bigger for them to show it. But some people that mystique works for now for sure. 62:44 We live in a period where artists are forced to move outside of their comfort zone to try push music. You know, before you can make a dope song. Now you got to do a video for it, do a TikTok, dance on TikTok. So streaming, I feel like it's one of those things you're taking advantage of because of the new era. 63:03 Because you don't got to do the TikTok challenge. You might just stream it, play it, have a special guest, and it go viral or some shit. That's it. 63:12 You can preview your songs and you got new relevance. I feel like he's trying his own way of doing things in the modern time. 63:17 It's okay, man. You got to experiment. Sometimes you got to experiment because you never know. It might work for you. 63:22 Yeah, and he's got the personality because he's quite funny on his track. 63:25 Yeah, he is. Nasty. 63:26 He's super funny. Yeah, nasty. I gotta check that out. 63:29 He does these C mixes. Oh my gosh. I gotta check that out. So you take a Drake song? Yeah. Or whatever, like Bees in the Trap. Yeah. 63:39 Yeah, yeah. 63:40 Fuck, what do you think about the new Drake? 63:42 Bro, I'm fucking loving it. It's hard. All of the opps are dead. Yeah. 63:46 What's the favorite song? What's the favorite song? 63:49 Emiliano. That was hard. And then I like Ran to Atlanta. Yeah, that shit hard. I like Ran to Atlanta. I like this song called Classic. Classic, it's on the R&B one. It's fire, it's fire. 64:09 Okay, next question is, have you ever done a collaboration just for money? Just getting the bands. 64:15 Sadly, I did before. It's just like, some artists will just come up to you, the beat will be good, you might not even really like, even if you don't like the song, it's just like, you know what I'm saying, it's still a business, so it's like, and it shows how much they want you on this song. So they might come at you with a proper bag, and it's like, you didn't expect it, and it's just like coming out of nowhere, it's like, you might like a little thing about the song, the beat, you might like the intro or whatever it is, and they paying you nicely. You know what I'm saying? What song was that? I don't even know, it's just like random songs that nobody ever hears. 64:48 You feel me like? 64:49 Cause like... 64:51 I don't know, it's crazy. Nobody ever hears them, but it's like, their fans hear them, and it's like a stepping stone for that artist. And it could go, who knows? At some point it might go. But it's like, it's completely out of the norm, and it's like- So he like, ah, let me just take the back. It's sometimes like, damn, why not? Why would you turn this down? When I was in the hood working at McDonald's, would I turn this down? I'm just like, you feel me? It's like, here you go. It's like a big opportunity just falling in your lap. It's like, Pass it by for what? 65:21 It's paying bills for like a year. You know what I'm saying? 65:23 And how do you charge? Like, if an artist out of nowhere wants to work with you, how do you decide on, this is how much I'm charging? 65:32 Like, if it's just like, Completely out of my world. 65:36 Yeah. 65:36 It's just like artist fee. You feel me? Let's make it happen. Boom. 65:40 If they want it that bad. You know what I'm saying? Because it's your time. It's your time. Yeah, it's just like my time and my brand, my voice. It's going to uplift the song. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, I still know the value. 65:49 Because if you and Nasty did a song, oh my. 65:51 Oh, no, me and Nasty, yeah. 65:52 Oh, yo, bro. You know he did a, I love you girl in particular. 65:57 You know particular, Major Lazer. 65:59 I think so. 66:00 I think so. You definitely heard it. 66:02 Probably heard it and don't know what it is. 66:04 I don't listen to that. You definitely heard it, bro. You definitely heard it. Yeah, definitely. Anyway, who's the— Major Ladies are big in America, too. Yeah. 66:11 Who's the— You vote Major Ladies? You vote with Diplo. Yeah, hell yeah. That's my brother. 66:15 You vote with Diplo, man. Yeah, you vote with Diplo, bro. 66:19 Come on. 66:19 I got to tell you something about Diplo. Diplo is so fucking legendary. 66:23 He's plugged in. 66:24 This dude, bro, we grew up in the same city, like me and Diplo. Diplo was playing basketball on the hoodest side of our city. White guy. White boy out there dropping buckets on these niggas. Whoa. White boy cooling. 66:41 Cool ass white boy, like boom, just naturally. That's what he like to do. He out there playing basketball on the blackest court in Mississippi. 66:47 Yeah. 66:48 You know what I'm saying? So we call it your 662 gang because we both made it from that shit. 66:53 So it's crazy. 66:54 Shout out Diplo man. Major Swayzer. 66:59 Even like Lean On. It's so legit. 67:02 It's like unforgettable. Two worlds collide in a perfect way. I like songs like that. 67:10 Who's the one artist that doesn't make you sleep at night? 67:15 Like it doesn't make me sleep. 67:16 Because you're listening to him or like... No, no, no. When you hear the song, you're like, oh shit, I gotta do better than this. 67:25 Because for us as a podcast, it would be Joe Biden, but he's got less numbers than us. So we can't really... 67:30 Damn. He's on average Joe. 67:34 Y'all dropped y'all nuts on him. 67:36 Damn. 67:46 Flex, flex, flex. 67:49 Shit, me. I be hearing good music all the time. It just made me want to go to the studio. 67:56 I can't think of a song in particular. 67:58 You know I knew you'd say that? But honestly speaking, I'm not buying your face because you're here. 68:05 I think you can go up with Drake, bro. Oh, for sure. I'm literally working. I got 40, 50 more years in this shit. Bro, I got so many songs. I don't even got to go to the studio again. I could just sit at home and just put out albums, drop them. 68:21 Bro, you don't think you can go up against Drake, bro? In a versus. Drake's got hits for days. 68:25 Yeah. 68:26 But like, his hits are more impactful. They're more global. 68:31 That'll be interesting. With more time. 68:33 Yeah. 68:34 Drake's always had time, you know. Yeah, he got a couple more years. With time and the same consistency he's been having, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. 68:39 I want to keep, I'm just keep, you know what I'm saying, building my shit up. For real. Yeah, man. But we in a good space. I love where we at. Like, you know what I'm saying? I got it. 68:48 I ain't gonna say I'm a baby, but you know what I'm saying? 68:51 My body's still work. 68:52 Everything's still work. I got a lot more time to be doing this shit, for real. 68:56 Who's the most famous person in your phone context right now? 69:02 You know the thing with artists? Bro, they be changing their numbers, bro. 69:07 I got a phone that I change, but I got one that I don't change. 69:14 Like, Donald Trump. You don't have Donald Trump, bro. 69:17 Black coffee. 69:19 Black Coffee Big, shout out South Africa. I ain't got Black Coffee number though. Come on, talk to me, talk to me. That's my son. That's my son. 69:31 Probably Trav. 69:33 Travis Scott, yeah. 69:35 You got Trav? Yeah, Trav, Trav. 69:37 Bro, I thought it would be like Jay-Z. 69:39 Yeah, man. I thought like Jay-Z or Drake. Kanye West. I ain't need a $500,000 dinner. 69:49 The most expensive thing I ever bought? Probably one of my houses. Wow. Beautiful. It was like 4.9. Whoa! The first time I bought it in LA. Yeah. 69:54 I be staying around the floors. Yeah, cause I… 70:11 What I realized by my first house, like, bro, they can be too big. 70:15 For real. Like, you'll be in that bitch like, why the fuck did I get this? Like, you know what I mean? I need a smaller girl. Like, bro, shit start breaking, you got to pay for shit every day. 70:27 The shit broke. The air conditioner broke on the other side that I don't even be on. You got to fix that motherfucker. The goddamn ceiling leaking on the other side you never went to. Like, fuck, bro. Like, this shit too big. 70:37 Bro, and what's happening when you're not living in those houses? Like, they're at MPMP. They're just chilling, bro. 70:43 Yeah, chilling, just costing money. For real. For real. For real. No cap. So you got a house where? Miami, obviously. Yeah, I got a house in Miami. LA. I'm about to sell it, though, because I want to get, like, a gated house. 70:53 Okay. Okay. 70:54 And I got a condo, and I got two condos being built in Miami that I'm going to rent out. And I got one I live in until I set my house and get another one in Miami. 71:03 And then LA, obviously. 71:05 I had one in LA, but I was dealing with the HOA. 71:08 Okay. 71:09 HOA was, bro, I hate the HOA. 71:13 These motherfuckers, bro. 71:14 Yeah. 71:15 What's the HOA, bro? 71:17 They will tell you the stupidest shit about your house, like, and try to fine you and shit. Yeah. if they see like a bag of leaves on your porch, they will come bother you about the bag of leaves on your porch. 71:30 Like, I'm sorry, can you, you're not supposed to have bags of leaves on your porch on Tuesday? That sounds like a parent. No, no, literally, that's what it is. It's a group of those. 71:38 You're lowering the rates of our houses, yeah. 71:41 They hate you being there. It's like, I had the whole neighborhood ganging up on me for just the stupidest reasons. I'm the youngest nigga in the neighborhood, biggest house on the block. I'm pulling to the cul-de-sac, Lamborghini. 71:52 They're like, can you work on how you pull in? You're pulling in so loud. All these motherfuckers like, they hit me like, it's coyotes in my neighborhood. So I had a pit bull just watching for the coyotes to protect the whole neighborhood. It barks when it hears the coyotes. 72:11 These motherfuckers like, can you tell your dog to stop barking? 72:15 I'm like, I said, I'm going to tell him. Yeah, I'm going to tell him. I'm going to tell him to stop barking. Like, the fuck? Like, yo, can you stop barking? Like, finding me $7,000, like, for this shit. I'm like, I'm like, you know what? Let me, y'all finna save me something. Y'all can have this house. Y'all finna save me money. Like, I don't even want to be around y'all motherfuckers no more. So I basically just left the neighborhood, sold that crib, and just moved to Miami. But yeah, bro. The HOA, anytime I see HOA and... Anytime a person see HOA, I suggest don't buy that shit. 72:45 Yeah, they're going to be pissing you the fuck off. 72:49 I want to just walk into the HOA meeting and just be like, listen, all y'all get off my dick. For real. They were just like, bro, center focused on me. 73:01 Bro, y'all ain't got no real issues, nigga. Y'all need to build a sidewalk in the neighborhood. Y'all need to build a sidewalk in the neighborhood. Stop worrying about my shit. Oh, God, I ain't breaking no rules. Then I don't ever bother them. They be having parties and nobody bother them. 73:13 Bro, it's like... Swae Lee, man, I want to give you this. So we give this to our esteemed guests. Yeah, bro. In support of black excellence. Black excellence. Shout out South Africa, too, bro. So this is my gin brand that I started. 73:29 Ooh, gin is strong. 73:30 Yeah. 73:32 That's what you drinking right now? Oh, y'all niggas tough. Yo, no, y'all niggas tough. I say anybody that drink gin, bro, gin is what gives a nigga a hangover. Yeah, bro. 73:46 That shit. 73:48 So we give this to our esteemed guests in support of black excellence. And you're part of that, you know? Obviously you're from America, but you're black, you know what I mean? And we gotta support it. Panduga, anything you wanna ask him? 73:59 Yeah, bro, I saw a scar. It looks like a violent scar. How did you get a scar, man? Oh, yeah, man. Thug him, bro. 74:06 No, what happened? Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. That looks horrible, man. Thug life. No, this was... 74:12 So this was from... 74:15 Like, I had a tattoo right here, and when I was telling you about my laser on my chest, I wanted to test it out. So I wanted to see, because I didn't want my chest to look like this. 74:22 Oh, that's laser? Yeah, this is laser. I thought it was a fight or a knife or something. 74:28 Yeah, it looks like a knife cut. Give me some character. But it's like, I just lasered this tattoo just to see what it did, like how my body would react to it before I got on my chest. Just in case I'm excited. I don't want to fuck my chest up. Exactly. So this is a T-something laser. And the laser that my body needs is like a Pico laser. It's called a Pico laser. So they laser it and there don't be no scarring. And I didn't take care of it. I was just a young, reckless nigga. I'm like, as soon as I got this laser, you're supposed to keep it bandaged. You're not supposed to get it wet. You're supposed to put this ointment on there. 74:59 So as soon as I got a laser, nigga, I left that shit like whatever. Jumped in the shower. 75:03 Doing whatever. I took no care of it. So it ain't a kilo enough. 75:10 Like a jail scar. 75:12 Bro, I want to ask you this question because we tried to ask you to Jim Jones, right? Yeah. So we're in New York and we're trying to... Hey, man, I'm... Hey, what's the name dropping today? 75:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You are. Yeah, you are, bro. You are. Shout out Jim Jones. 75:27 Hey, my dog. Hey, that's a real one. Jim Jones too hard. 75:30 You're working real with that nigga. 75:32 So we're in New York, right? Yeah. We had Jim Jones on a podcast. You could tell. This motherfucker was tired. He's like, I got to do a podcast with these African niggas. 75:42 Yeah, yeah. His energy was like, someone from the label said I should do this interview. I don't want to be here. Who the fuck are these guys? Because if you watch all his other interviews, drink champs everywhere else, he's free, he's like how you are here. Very free, open, candid, chill guy. But he gave us a stinking attitude, man. 76:01 And I wanted to ask him this question. So I'll ask you because you've given us good energy. Energy, bro. Yeah, we really appreciate it, bro. We appreciate it. You're so chill, bro. Like, yeah, man. For real, man. Bro, what's the fascination? Obviously, we listen to hip-hop from Tupac, P.E. Diddy, B.I.G., Eminem, you name it. 76:24 Like, literally, what you guys rap about, we... 76:28 Even the younger rappers, man, you mentioned all the old names. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I'm an old guy, I'm an old guy, I'm an old guy. 76:33 Post Malone, all those guys. 76:35 Yeah, Post Malone. 76:36 What's the fascination with the chains, bro? I don't get it, bro. 76:40 It's just like... Chain culture. The chain culture. 76:43 Yeah, it's just like... 76:45 When you look at Egyptian kings and queens, like... 76:48 This is like our version of being like a king and a queen. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? We got our... 76:53 Shit on. It's like a crown. You know what I'm saying? 76:56 To show it to other people. 76:59 It's like a… They're like a trophy. You know what I'm saying? It's like a symbol of success. 77:04 These are symbols of success in the culture. 77:06 So when you're a black rapper, you gotta get a chain. 77:09 It symbolizes, yeah, you're doing some good shit. Like, yeah. Two niggas walk in the room, right? Two niggas walk in the room. One of them got the chains on. One of them just got nothing on. You know what I'm saying? Everybody perceives it the same way. Like, oh, this guy with the chains on, you know what I'm saying? He's doing something with himself. Hey, you need to get a chain. 77:33 The other guy, you need to get a chain, man. 77:35 Mama can't say, I'm a rapper. Where you chain at? Yeah. 77:39 You know what I'm saying? 77:40 It's like, you got to look the part. I never understood that, bro. It's crazy how human perception. 77:44 But you got to spend so much money, bro. 77:46 Yeah, for sure. Some people spend a lot. But now it's like, you can get the fake shit. This is like real icebox diamonds. Now it's like, you can get fake shit and look the part. You can fake it till you make it now. You can get moist and nice shit and shit. But yeah, I think it's just like, it's like a pat on the back. Like, damn. You know what I'm saying? Like, You're making strides. 78:08 Bro, did you get your teeth done, bro? 78:09 Yeah, I got my teeth done, so I broke my teeth. Actually, I broke my teeth. 78:13 Man, that shit is like a blessing. I would have bended that shit if I would have known that shit. My first couple years, I had my hood teeth. You know what I'm saying? I had crazy teeth. You know what I'm saying? I ain't seen nothing wrong with it, though. You know what I'm saying? But I noticed when I changed my teeth, like... Nigga... Life is just better. It's an upgrade. It's like you putting fucking rims on your car or something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they're super wide, bro. 78:39 Wait, so wait. Are these not... So wait. 78:42 So what are these... So wait. Did you get new teeth? 78:46 Did you... Yeah, it's like... Do they come off? Yeah, I can actually... No, I'm not. 78:53 Hey, get a glass of water. Somebody get a glass of water. Look at this. Pop them out. Teeth tumbling out of their mouth. Teeth tumbling out of their mouth. Pop them out. Nah, but, um... Yeah, because they super white, bro. 79:10 That's the first thing I noticed. Oh, I appreciate that. Thank God for asking them about their teeth, bro. I would, like... 79:16 I would have told anybody, before you even get a chain, get your teeth fixed. Like, because how that, it like, it upgrades your whole look. Like, I noticed when I got it, like, it enhanced my whole look. I was like, damn. Like, my whole, like, first eight years, nigga, I'm coming straight from the hood. Like, so it was a gift that I broke my teeth. I was like, because I had to get them done. I had a, I had chipped my tooth right in the middle. So I had some country-ass looking teeth. And I had to, you know, I was jumping on stage. I had a chain. And I had a big-ass medallion on it. And it was like, boom. I was raging with Travis Scott. Boom. Shit's like, boom. Hit me in the mouth. 79:46 Uh. 79:47 I felt it on stage, I was like, oh shit, my tooth just broke. Kept jumping, but as soon as I got off stage, I was like, looked in the mirror, I'm like, fuck. I had to go to Turkey, and I had to, I had been seen on my Instagram. Like these fire-ass dentists on my Instagram, these special teeth, so I was like, I was close, I was like, yo, I'm finna fly. I DM'd them, I was like, yo, and I come in, I fixed my teeth, I broke my teeth, emergency. Boom, they said, yeah, come in, Sway, we love you, boom. Fix my teeth, and then, yeah. 80:16 Because the only time we knew you were performing, because we're at Mako Benjala Marquis next to yours. 80:21 Yeah. 80:22 The only time Tibla was telling me when you were performing, because we could see your teeth shining from the stage. 80:28 For real? Shout out to my dentist, yo. He's pulling a tooth. 80:35 I need to drop my dentist fucking Instagram right now. 80:39 No, for real. But yeah, I would advise anybody that want to just upgrade themselves, bro. Get your teeth done. And you don't got to shave your teeth down. That's a myth. You don't got to shave them down. They can put them right over your teeth. For real, it's fire. 80:54 Yeah, bro. Is it true that you had a pet monkey spider? 81:00 Yeah, I had two monkeys. I raised two monkeys basically when I was like 20. Yeah, I raised a spider monkey and I had a capuchin. 81:09 And I raised them from babies, like changed their diapers and shit. And they like, they fucked my ears up. I had to like, they ripped my ears. 81:16 Like you see my ears like scarred up. 81:18 I know, piece of shit, bro. 81:21 No, for real, piece of shit. I could've made them shit some slippers. They could've been a pair of slippers. They thank you. 81:31 Snatched my diamonds out my ear. I had to fucking, I had to sew my ears up. But like, yeah, they was like my babies, like, and it's crazy. Because the USDA, like, they actually, like, took one of my monkeys. Like, they took my spider monkey. It was my favorite monkey. 81:44 Oh, shit, bro. 81:45 I was on tour and shit. These niggas, like, I'm looking at my cameras, like, I see, like, these offers at my door. 81:51 Kicked my fucking door in. 81:53 Running around my crib looking for the monkeys. 81:56 Snatched my monkey. Left. And then I ended up having to pay like a hundred bands too. To the owners just so they could feed them. I'm just like, just like the HOA. These motherfuckers like, bro, they out to get you, bro. I'm telling you. My other monkey ended up going with my homegirl, so she still take care of my other monkey. 82:16 But bro, you black, man. 82:18 Yeah. 82:18 You know what they call us. 82:20 Monkeys? 82:22 They really think we fucking monkeys. 82:24 You know what I'm saying? I hate that shit. That shit pisses me off. I've been dealing with that shit my whole life. 82:31 I'm making a thing. Yo, yo, yo. 82:34 In South Africa, we believe you exercise or practice witchcraft. Sorcery if you keep a monkey. 82:41 Oh, shit. 82:42 As a pit. Yeah, yeah. 82:45 What the fuck? It's not normal? It's not normal? No, it's not normal. 82:48 No, no way. Is it legal? Keeping a monkey is not normal. Is it legal though? You need a certain license to keep certain animals in South Africa. Yeah, yeah. 82:55 Bro, would you have money in here? As much as money you have, would say you have a snake. 83:00 Nah, hell. And the snake gives you money. It brings you good fortune somehow. 83:04 That's what they say? Somehow. Somehow. I don't know. I can see that because you got to be really patient with a snake. Like, that shit can't do nothing for itself. Like, literally. And you've just given this dangerous creature everything in here. 100%. I can see that. I can see that. That's fine. I wouldn't have a snake, though. That motherfucker, like... First of all, it's no fun. Don't do shit. It's dangerous. Shit bites you in the fucking face. No arms. Wrap up on your arms. I don't see the purpose in that. You really got to be into snakes to want to have a pet snake. You know what I'm saying? 83:35 Monkeys are fun. They walking around. My monkey, this shit could plug my iPhone in. I tell you, iPhone, iPhone. gets the cord, like, put it in the damn charger. Like, yeah, this shit's smart as fuck. Like, I raised it so I think it's a human. Like, for real, like, I walk up to him, what's up, Lil G? The nigga, like, shaking my hand. Like, my monkeys are, like, human. Like, it's crazy. Like, and they were so popular in LA. Like, all the girls were, like, when they came to my house parties, they were, like, 84:05 Where's the monkeys? 84:06 It was a thing at one point. It was like, if you see your girl with Sway Lee's monkey, she gone. 84:15 It was funny as fuck. If you see her with the monkey, you know where she at in LA. She was swaying them. It just got to that point, bro. I'm like hood Tarzan. It's crazy. 84:31 I love animals. I just love animals. Even at my hotel, the monkeys fucking jumping around at the hotel. Like in the oyster box. So I'm at oyster box and shit. So they got the monkeys around. I'm gathering all the monkeys around and shit. 84:44 You having a conference? 84:46 Yeah, I'm talking to them. Come here, come here. 84:50 Making noise and shit. I got like six monkeys around me. Everybody looking like, what the fuck? Throwing them breadcrumbs and shit like... But yeah, I fuck with the animals. I don't know. It's the animal lovers, bro. For real. Like, you know how Michael Jackson had Never Never Land? Like, I get that type shit. 85:06 I don't know. 85:06 Oh, shit, man. It's something about it. 85:08 Bro, I didn't know you went to gaming until I found out that you invested in XSET. 85:14 XSET. Yeah, XSET. That was one of my early investments. Yeah, XSET. It was like a... 85:19 E-sports. E-sports gaming. Shout out Clint Sparks. 85:23 I just like, that's like a billion dollar industry. Gaming is just like, bro, when you think about how many kids just sit up and just game at the house, like, One of the things I want to do is make a game. I want to make a game. Like how niggas got Grand Theft Auto. I want to make a fun-ass game like that. But VR, like a VR game, shit gonna go crazy. You feel me? Trust me, that shit's so fun, bro. I don't know if anybody ever played VR games, but bro, the shits are so fun. It's like real life. You playing a game, this whole room is a whole other world. 85:55 You got your hands. Nigga, you shooting guns, nigga. I could slap all these cups over. It's like real life. Niggas think like you're like, playing with blocks or something. It's like games so advanced right now. I could shoot this camera with a whole automatic gun, looking through the scope, reloading the guns. They got fighting games. You punching niggas out, beating niggas up. You punch them in the face, there's going to be a bruise right here. It's so advanced. And I feel like this is where the world is headed. 86:26 The next five years, Like more and more kids, they gonna put down controllers. They gonna be in VR. The MetaQuest shit. Like AI music. AI is gonna start getting personalities. You might run to somebody on the game that's with an AI personality that talk back to you. They having full conversation. This shit getting so advanced. 86:46 Like, yo, AI, I'm not feeling good today. We don't care. They might tell you, we don't care. 86:51 Nigga might have an attitude. It's like random AI personality. It's crazy, bro. Like, for real. And people are going to start spending more time in these games than they do in the real world. It's crazy. Bro, tell him about Credo V. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 87:04 Actually, I was about to ask you. But let me tell you. So we've got this artist in South Africa, right? Yeah. He is... 87:12 the most streamed artist at the moment. He's an AI, but the thing is, he created the music using AI. 87:19 I think I know the song. What's the song? 87:25 Okay, see, I heard this one song. Timo Mo Mo. Timo Mo Mo. I see it better than him, actually. No, I'm trying to hear it. Timo Mo Mo. It's this one. And it's AI? Yeah, so the thing is, here's a story. But he trained it. So he released music through, he made his songs in Suno, or one of these AI music generators. The music caught on so well. People are connecting with it. It's perfect. It's a big success. 87:50 Now came the time to perform the music. 87:54 He said he sang on the songs and only the A.I. is the choirs and the backing vocals. 88:03 Time to perform the song. And he sounds like a granddad in the shower. Oh my God. See, that's the thing. It works until it's time to hit the stage. 88:13 You got to open your mouth and sing it. That's the... 88:16 No, man. Let me try and find the video. Yeah, I want to hear that. I want to hear that. That's funny. Oh, you got the video wings on stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, I got to see that. So he recently performed like a strip. And the air songs are fire, bro. He performed like a... 88:31 They're perfect. You think it's Sway Lee, bro. But they're perfect. It's so dangerous, bro. It's like... 88:38 Nigga can just make a song in five seconds, bro. 88:40 For real. It's just dangerous. And you know how J2 Blood and Sweat to come up with the concept, you know what I mean? 88:47 From life to experience, you know what I mean? From actually singing it manually to just three, two, one, done. The song. Masterpiece. 88:56 Nah, bro. You're going crazy on that motherfucker. Nigga, they're singing better than me. 89:03 I'm like, bitch ass nigga like me. 89:07 Delete this song and this shit sound better than me, nigga. Nigga saying better shit to me. I'm like, what the fuck? Yo, hear her? 89:15 Oh. 89:19 Listen to it, bro. Sir, that's the loudest I can get. And it was on the news? 89:24 No, he's performing. Yeah, it's a morning show. 89:39 But the AI version of that song is amazing. It's one of the most listened to songs in the country. But that's the live rendition, unfortunately, that people have to live with. And everybody was clowning because... Yeah, everybody throughout the country is clowning. Like, yo, bro, you said you sang on that song. But it's the... 90:02 They was like, AI confirmed. Yeah! He confirmed it. Yeah! 90:07 Yeah! 90:09 By the way, by the way, bro, it's okay to lip sync, man. I would have lip synced that bitch. I promise you, I would have lip synced that bitch. 90:16 Nigga still would have known what it mean. 90:19 Nah, a couple of his other shows, you see the problem is, all his gigs, he's done like two gigs, which went very public. He was lip syncing. So I think these guys on the TV were like, Please give us an acoustic version. No lyrics on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like, bet, I'm there. But it's working, bro. There it is. 90:41 There it is, man. But it's working, bro. 90:43 Sway Lee from America now knows Kratos' game. Sway Lee is now familiar with Kratos' game. When I get in my car, I'm going to listen to that shit now, too. For real. For real. For real. I heard this other AI song. I'm trying to think of it. It was a dance, too. It was like down or some shit. Like, eh. 90:59 It was fire as fuck, too. Let me see. Wait, let me see. 91:02 Yeah. Bro, aren't you worried? Because you obviously have one of the biggest voices in global music. And you've got a very particular style. Even your presets and reverb. And cadence. You know? The cadence. 91:15 You hear that nigga? Cadence. Cadence. Nah, for real. Yeah, yeah. 91:19 Cadence V. Cadence V. I love that word. Cadence V, Daniels. Word of the day. 91:24 Aren't you worried that you're going to pop up on some AI song or a voice that is emulating you will pop up on some AI song? 91:32 Definitely, definitely. What I'm trying to do, I'm trying to make where you can use my voice before they make it where you can use my voice. And where it's something I can control because it's inevitable. You know what I'm saying? It's going to happen. 91:42 Landon Richie trademarked phrases. So like for you to trademark unforgettable. No, you can trademark unforgettable. So an AI can't use, it's unforgettable. 91:55 But shit, that motherfucker can make her say something else. In the same voice. 91:58 It's a little stupid, your voice. It's a little stupid, your voice. 92:01 Undeniable. Like, damn, nigga. She be a whole smash. Like, he's like, you got to figure out. 92:06 Yeah, Lionel trademarked his famous songs, Hello, and Easy Like, Sunday Morning. All the stuff he did, even with the Commodores. 92:16 But that ain't gonna protect his voice, though. Yeah, and he can still use it and just make it say other stuff. It's crazy. You can trademark your own lyrics. Yeah, you can trademark your lyrics, but nigga just gonna make it say something else. Yeah, with your voice. Because no one wants to... You're gonna be like, that sound like me. It's like, shit, nigga just made it with AI and got you with Future on the song or some shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 92:38 Bro, who came up with the mannequin challenge? Because that thing had us the whole world on a chokehold, bro. That shit was so legendary. 92:44 Oh yeah, it was your song on the mannequin. Shout out to them high school kids, bro. Them kids is so amazing. It's on YouTube. You can actually see the college, the high school that made the shit up. And it's just a regular school. Some kids having fun. Listen to the music. And this is how creative they was. They was just so in the moment having fun with each other. One of them might have just been being goofy, just like, You know what I'm saying? And they all just started doing it. It just felt good. And they like, everybody freeze. Everybody freeze. 93:14 And they just recorded it, posted it, and the rest was history. I seen that shit. Me and my brother seen that shit. We was in Europe, and we had a show. We was performing a song because the song was blowing up. So we like, we goddamn in Germany or some shit. You know what I'm saying, goddamn. We seen that, we like, bro, we finna do this on our next show. This is it. Whatever the fuck this is, nigga, this is what we're doing to this song. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was so clean. We look at that niggas like, like, bro, what the fuck made them do that? Like, it's like, you know what I'm saying? But that's what needs to be done. 93:45 And it just clicked. We told the crowd, hey, it was like maybe 8,000 people in the crowd. 93:51 Everybody freeze when we play this song. Y'all know this song, Black Beatles in the fucking city. When you hear this shit, freeze. Don't move, like, strike a pose. Boom, play that shit. 94:00 Had my cameraman go around. 94:02 Ding, ding, ding, ding. 94:05 That girl is a real crowd pleaser. That girl is a real crowd pleaser. That girl is a real crowd pleaser. That girl is a real crowd pleaser. Yeah, for real. 94:33 Like basically that song is like, it just feels like it's like some college drama or something. 94:45 You know what I'm saying? High school drama. So you're also working in a young body. 94:49 Yeah, that was just like a fun song. It's like I'm just like thinking out loud. It's like I'm just looking at a scene from But do you hear that when you hear... Wait, which part is that? 95:16 Which part is that, twin? When you hear the beat, how do you get to the point where we hear everything done as it is now? From hearing the beat. 95:31 That song was crazy. Remember I told y'all Mike Will really be hearing my shit a different way? 95:37 Me and Mike Will, Mike Will was going on that verse when he swayed. 95:42 That verse is good, but just try, keep this part, try something else here. And I was like, Mike, nah, I like this part here, but I'll try something else here. And he was like, okay, keep that and try something here now. So we went back, like, back and forth, me and Mike, we went back and forth like eight times on that verse. It was like eight different verses. Versions of the verses. And then he's like... 96:02 Yeah, literally just like the perfect one. We finally found the perfect one. Both of us agreed and it was like, yo, drop that shit. Wow. Yeah, it was crazy. That's Mike Will made it. 96:11 Yeah, Mike Will made it. Yeah, yeah. 96:13 Yeah, that guy was insane, bro. That beat was crazy. That guy's insane. No, Mike Will is one of the most talented and he been doing it for so long. He got so much footing in the game. 96:22 Does he smash these hannies, bro? I think like after he smashed, they get a hit, bro. 96:29 Shit, they probably want to smash Mike Will. Mike Will a player. You know what I'm saying? He's cool. He's the coolest dude you ever going to see. 96:35 Of course, he be having his own emotion going on. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. 96:39 He's a working guy. I seen Mike Will just working fucking 7 a.m., Sleeping, waking up, going back to work. You know what I'm saying? Just like... Yeah. 96:50 Bro, what does... That statue challenge... Obviously, like you said, you saw it. You guys were already touring globally. But what is a challenge like that? A big global... Because we've had... In South Africa, I don't know if you've heard of a song called Jerusalem. 97:05 It also went viral on online challenge. I've probably seen it for sure. 97:09 What does it do for the song? Like, did you see a bigger impetus, more bookings, more sync deals? What does a challenge like that do for the song? 97:18 For sure. A show like that? Like... 97:21 A challenge like that, it pushes it to number one. 97:23 The song, it wouldn't have went number one if it wasn't for a challenge. It probably would have been number 10 or 8 or some shit. But just the fact that everybody doing that challenge and just having so much fun doing that shit and doing it with 80 people at a time, it's just like... First of all, it's spreading crazy. Everybody's hearing the shit. Even if the people doing the challenge didn't know it, they're just like... 97:45 they want to do it after they do the challenge with somebody else. They want to do it with their friends now. Boom, it's spreading like a wildfire. 97:52 It makes it more interactive, just fun. 97:56 It resurged. In America, I don't know if it was over here, but in America, it just like, they started doing it again. Like, now, right now they're doing it again. The new kids are doing it now and the old kids are doing it again. So now, the song actually went diamond. Just because of that shit. For real, it keeps having moments. Even now, they're putting like, you know how me and my brother was back to back on the album? 98:23 They're putting that With like Messi and Le- and Ronaldo. They might have like Wizkid and fucking DeVito back to back. They're doing edits like crazy like. 98:37 Yeah like. No literally. Literally. Literally. Y'all gotta do one. For real. For real. They doing that. It's gonna go viral. 98:48 Crazy. 98:49 Last question. Speaking of your brother, bro. Because you guys already started as a band. Well, partners. He's older than you. Has in any way, at any point, your success created a bit of friction between the two of you guys? Maybe he thought, as the older one, he's the one who's going to blow up like that, you know? Yeah. 99:10 Shit, I think, like, we both... 99:14 Not beef, but we both know how we want it to go for ourselves. You know what I'm saying? So he see it one way, I see it one way. But we agree, you know what I'm saying? Whether we agree or see it differently, it's like we a team forever. You know what I'm saying? I just look at it like he gonna have his moments. We all gonna have our moments. We gonna have our moments together. We gonna have our moments separately. You know what I'm saying? We different artists, but... 99:35 At the base of it all is like Ray Schirmer. That's what we started, you know what I'm saying? So we keep it true, you know what I'm saying? I don't think it's a brand that can be like, whether we have our differences, it's nothing that can permanently damage us. We don't always forgive each other, whatever it is. We come back around, you know what I'm saying? Just figure it out, you know what I'm saying? That's my brother, like, really in the trenches, sleeping outside, you know what I'm saying? Trying to figure out our next move together. 100:01 Man, I hear all that shit, but who's getting more girls? You and... 100:04 I don't know. He knows. 100:10 He knows. He's the superstar. Come on now, bro. 100:17 I be tunnel vision, man. I be tunnel vision, man. I be tunnel vision. But yeah, focus, man. 100:25 I might get a little, yeah. But, yeah. The ladies, childhood ladies, man. Ladies love Kool Sway, for sure. For real. I be singing to my ladies, you know. Singing to the ladies. 100:36 Bro, did you suffer from ADHD? 100:38 I don't know. 100:40 I don't know. I just, I look at it, I look at it like... You forgot? For real. I look at it like... The way I see it, though, I do think like my brain, like, works different, for sure. So like, do you get bored easily? I don't get bored. But I realize when something's boring. 100:57 You know what I'm saying? 100:57 You know what I'm saying? But I don't get bored. I'm just like, how can we change this? What I gotta change? You know what I'm saying? Something gotta change. You feel me? But it's like, um... I look at things different. Like, when I like... Sometimes when I'm talking to people, it's like... What I was saying, like what a person would say is like, damn. My head was somewhere totally different. You know what I'm saying? It's like different approaches, so... 101:21 So is it like that in the bedroom? Because there's only so many styles you can... Shit. 101:26 Yeah, I get ADHD with the pussy. I'll approach that shit differently. For real. For real. I'll be focused though, for sure. 101:36 Bro, I watched that interview you did with Big Boy two months ago. Why didn't you want to tell him the celebrity... 101:44 Girlfriend you had smashed. Like, why is it a secret, bro? 101:48 Man, because I'm just like, I'm just so player. And I don't want to put that attention on her. You know what I'm saying? She might have whatever she got going on. You sure Kardashian? I love the Kardashians, though. I love the Kardashians. For real. But it's just like, it's an icon. But it's like, I don't want to put that energy on her. It's just older than you, right? 102:10 Yeah. But it might, you know what I'm saying? Who knows? Maybe in like... 102:13 The Swayley documentary. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to put that bitch in there. You know what I'm saying? For real. I'm just waiting for the right moment. Keep it in the pocket. Keep it smooth. Make sure everything's respectable for both parties. You know what I'm saying? Because it was legendary for me. It's just something I just... 102:29 Take value in myself. 102:31 So every guest we have, we always ask them what they want to be remembered as, right? Yeah. But before you say that, I just want to commend you for like your consistency, bro. You started this game in such a young age. You've had money, fame, all the pussy in the world. You know what I mean? But you still… It's still relevant, you know? Yeah, it's crazy. You're in Durban, tomorrow you're going to Portland, and I'm sure you've got other shows booked, you know? And a lot of people don't get to experience that, you know? So I want to shout out you for that, you know what I mean? 103:04 Because even Slim couldn't experience that, you know what I mean? 103:09 Oh, no! Slim traveling right now, he's in another city right now trailblazing, killing shit. 103:17 I just said, hey, they got me over here right now. 103:20 What do you want if you remember this, bro? 103:23 Man. 103:24 Just like a positive light. You know what I'm saying? A positive light. And just like, I want to show people that it can be done. Like, as lame as it sounds, like, believe in yourself. When people say believe in yourself, like, for real, believe in yourself. Because like... I could have turned around and the next day would have been the day I blew up. I kept believing. I just kept pushing. Staying optimistic. When the shit seemed like nothing could happen, you just keep thinking something could happen. You keep working towards that. 103:51 It can really happen. So I just want to be that beacon of light to all the kids in the hood who's looking at how big the world is. What's going to happen next for me? It's really whatever you want to happen next for yourself. 104:07 go crazy, work, believe in yourself and just ... Like I said, I want to be that beacon of light. Like, yeah, nigga, you can do this shit. Kind of like Michael Jackson, you know what I'm saying? How just uplifting he was. 104:19 For real, yeah, how Michael Jackson ... When you think about him, besides all the bullshit, you know what I'm saying? It's like, remember from greatness, being a positive person. 104:30 You know what I'm saying? Don't take no shit, but just ... 104:34 positive things, like yeah, positive light in all the darkness, you know what I'm saying? Just showing people it's possible, yeah. 104:40 Shout out, bro. 104:45 Just like y'all, you know what I'm saying? Kicking them doors in. 104:47 Shout out to my dawg. You've been in Nessai for a while. Cause I know your first video you shot nine years ago in Nessai, right? Yeah, I shot it in Johannesburg. 104:56 Early. 104:57 For real. Do you know any South African words? Cause there's only one word you gotta learn that I must teach you right now. 105:09 It's called... 105:15 That sound like ass twerking or something like that. Nah, nah, yo. 105:19 It's like, bring that ass up here. It's like, bring that ass to me. Nah, it's a greeting. It's a greeting, yeah? 105:28 Have you subscribed to our channel, by the way? Have you subscribed? No, you should subscribe. We must have subscribed. No, yeah. Where's your phone? No, where's your phone? Where's your phone? This is for you, my brother. 105:36 I'm going to follow y'all up. Yeah, that's the bottle. Yeah, because look, man. Get your phone out. 105:39 Subscribe, bro. 105:40 Subscribe to our channel, man. The bottle was missing, too. 105:44 He thought I wasn't going to notice. He thought I was going to get home with the bomb. I'm sorry. 105:49 No, I'm definitely going to tap in with y'all boys. I'm tuning in. 105:51 You must subscribe to so you can be a chiller. A chiller? A chiller? Yeah. So you must go to... Just so you know I ain't capping. Yeah. 105:58 Yeah. It's actually dead. Oh, shit. It's dead. 106:02 Okay, you subscribe. You know I ain't capping. 106:04 All right, cool. All right, cool, man. But I'm going to fuck with y'all boys the long way. 106:07 Yeah, so it's podcast and chill. 106:09 Look into the camera and say... You know that shit that you guys do, 4L, whatever. 106:40 Sway Lee checking in, man. Lee Sway saying the difference, man. Yeah. 106:43 You know what I mean? That was a good attempt, man. Yeah. 106:48 All right, what was it? What was it? All right, cool. 106:53 We're going to cut it down. In three, two, one, go. 107:00 Say it one more time for me. 107:01 Oh, okay. So this is what you're going to say. You're going to say, yo, my nigga Sway Lee, A.T. Al, in the building. I'm in the building from all the holes. 107:13 In the worldwide Barimini. 107:17 In the Barimini. Barimini, okay. 107:20 Barimini, yeah. 107:22 Sway Lee, Lee, Sway, same difference, man. You already know, checking in live from South Africa. 107:27 In the Barimini. 107:29 Yeah. 107:32 I live here now. I live here now. I live here now. 107:38 I live here now, hear me. 107:40 Thank you, bro. My dog, man, my dog. 107:45 My dog, man, the chillers, man, yeah. Amazing. 107:48 Yo, what is that? When they ask you, do not fear. 107:59 Or if you do, just say Anis TV. This is the medicine of censorship. This is the pill. Which one?